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New WMATA Railcar Numbering Pilot

Postby smallfire85 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:01 pm

I've noticed over the past couple weeks that WMATA is trying out an inverted car number design with white numbers on a black background. In addition, numbers have been added by the side doors in the car to make it more noticeable. So far, I've seen 2058 and 6174 with the new design. What do you guys think?

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Re: New WMATA Railcar Numbering Pilot

Postby Backshophoss » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:19 am

Looks like they copied the NYCTA's numbering graphic standard,white numbers on a black background.
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Re: New WMATA Railcar Numbering Pilot

Postby Chris Brown » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:47 am

I think its hideous and harder to read.

WMATA needs to stop copying NYC. I shrugged it off when they designed the 7000 series to look like the R-160 trains in New York. But now they seem to be on a mission to walk in lock-step with NYC when it comes to train related matters....
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Re: New WMATA Railcar Numbering Pilot

Postby JDC » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:48 am

I prefer the current design for the exterior. But, I do appreciate them placing the car number in a larger font elsewhere in the cabin then the limited spots it is already placed.
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Re: New WMATA Railcar Numbering Pilot

Postby smallfire85 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:34 pm

Chris Brown wrote:I think its hideous and harder to read.

WMATA needs to stop copying NYC. I shrugged it off when they designed the 7000 series to look like the R-160 trains in New York. But now they seem to be on a mission to walk in lock-step with NYC when it comes to train related matters....


Just so you know, WMATA's COO and Chief Safety Officer are just about fresh from NYCT. We're seeing a lot of NYC style procedures and policies being implemented here of late, with extra WMATA safety bells and whistles, of course.

I will say if Metro is going to look for an example on procedure, policy, and design, NYCT is the closest next-largest agency to refer to. MARTA in Atlanta is considered a sister agency but is seen as too small, and Baltimore and Miami are seen as too simple.
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Re: New WMATA Railcar Numbering Pilot

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:51 pm

NYCTA is a 24 hour-365 days a year operation,and very safe operations wise as well. If this cleans up WMATA's ops and safety culture,
so much, the better for everybody!
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Re: New WMATA Railcar Numbering Pilot

Postby Chris Brown » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:14 am

Well sure.. if WMATA can learn some good safety and efficiency improvements from New York then awesome.

But I'm talking more about copying NYC just for the heck of it. I don't see how changing the numbering on the cars helps anything. It looks hideous and it's harder to read.
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Re: New WMATA Railcar Numbering Pilot

Postby smallfire85 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:32 pm

Chris Brown wrote:Well sure.. if WMATA can learn some good safety and efficiency improvements from New York then awesome.

But I'm talking more about copying NYC just for the heck of it. I don't see how changing the numbering on the cars helps anything. It looks hideous and it's harder to read.


I was thinking the same thing about the visibility, until I got off car 2058 at L'Enfant Plaza. The white on black is much easier to see than the current setup in low light conditions, which is basically half the system. The inverted scheme may be harder to see outdoors during daylight, though not by much IMO. I can see this aiding emergency response in tunnels and at night, whereas right now it's not that easy to ID a specific car without a good light source.
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Re: New WMATA Railcar Numbering Pilot

Postby Chris Brown » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:57 pm

smallfire85 wrote:
Chris Brown wrote:Well sure.. if WMATA can learn some good safety and efficiency improvements from New York then awesome.

But I'm talking more about copying NYC just for the heck of it. I don't see how changing the numbering on the cars helps anything. It looks hideous and it's harder to read.


I was thinking the same thing about the visibility, until I got off car 2058 at L'Enfant Plaza. The white on black is much easier to see than the current setup in low light conditions, which is basically half the system. The inverted scheme may be harder to see outdoors during daylight, though not by much IMO. I can see this aiding emergency response in tunnels and at night, whereas right now it's not that easy to ID a specific car without a good light source.


I can see that. Maybe the white numbers glow in the dark too lol.
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