B30, now marked down to B19.95

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B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby farecard » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:40 am

WMATA has discontinued the B30 BWI bus on weekends. Period. Further, they have cut weekday service to one hour headways. Ridership has crashed, no surprise.

This is the stoopidist move they have made since Paul Wiedefeld took over. He ran BWI, he know this makes BWI far less attractive.

There is no viable alternative from Mont/PG to BWI. There is now weekend MARC service but for how long?
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby STrRedWolf » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:04 pm

farecard wrote:WMATA has discontinued the B30 BWI bus on weekends. Period. Further, they have cut weekday service to one hour headways. Ridership has crashed, no surprise.

This is the stoopidist move they have made since Paul Wiedefeld took over. He ran BWI, he know this makes BWI far less attractive.

There is no viable alternative from Mont/PG to BWI. There is now weekend MARC service but for how long?


Well, no express bus from Greenbelt. The weekend MARC service has gotten too popular -- it won't get cut. Plus, Wiederfield was head of MTA Maryland before they brought up Ralign Wells from the rank-and-file. Wiederfield got out before too long at MTA.

But you do have some alternatives!

  • The 201 commuter bus is damn-near 24-7 from Gathersberg and Shady Grove Metrorail stops, and takes you to the airport.
  • From Greenbelt, take the RTA 302 or WMATA 89 up to Laurel, transfer to one of two buses: 409 to the Maryland Food Bank, transferring to the 501 to BWI... or 503 to the 501 at Columbia Mall (the Long Way Around)... but forget about Sunday service.
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby farecard » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:31 pm

The 201 commuter bus is damn-near 24-7 from Gathersberg and Shady Grove Metrorail stops, and takes you to the airport.

From Greenbelt, take the RTA 302 or WMATA 89 up to Laurel, transfer to one of two buses: 409 to the Maryland Food Bank, transferring to the 501 to BWI...

or 503 to the 501 at Columbia Mall (the Long Way Around)... but forget about Sunday service.


And the nearest Metro station? I've yet to find a bus system map on that awful MTA site.
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby STrRedWolf » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:58 pm

farecard wrote:
The 201 commuter bus is damn-near 24-7 from Gathersberg and Shady Grove Metrorail stops, and takes you to the airport.

From Greenbelt, take the RTA 302 or WMATA 89 up to Laurel, transfer to one of two buses: 409 to the Maryland Food Bank, transferring to the 501 to BWI...

or 503 to the 501 at Columbia Mall (the Long Way Around)... but forget about Sunday service.


And the nearest Metro station? I've yet to find a bus system map on that awful MTA site.


Nearest Metrorail station to pick up these? Or nearest to BWI?
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby farecard » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:33 pm

STrRedWolf wrote: Nearest Metrorail station to pick up these? Or nearest to BWI?


It makes nil sense to go Ft Totten to Shady Grove on the Red Line just to get a 201 bus to BWI. But that bus is only MTA one serving BWI, and I can't see where else it meets up with easily with WMATA.

It looks like it goes within hundreds of feet of Briggs-Cheney Park & Ride [Z6's], but does not stop there. The Z6's out to Burtonsville stop in the evening. https://www.wmata.com/schedules/timetables/upload/Z6,Z8_160327.pdf
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby STrRedWolf » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:39 pm

farecard wrote:It makes nil sense to go Ft Totten to Shady Grove on the Red Line just to get a 201 bus to BWI. But that bus is only MTA one serving BWI, and I can't see where else it meets up with easily with WMATA.

It looks like it goes within hundreds of feet of Briggs-Cheney Park & Ride [Z6's], but does not stop there. The Z6's out to Burtonsville stop in the evening. https://www.wmata.com/schedules/timetables/upload/Z6,Z8_160327.pdf


Aaaah, from Ft. Totten. Okay, I was missing that. Burtonsville would be the closest. Z6, Z7, and Z11... but ether Google's not up to date (and the Z6/Z7 buses are cut) or WMATA hasn't updated their website yet, because their map system isn't working.
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby farecard » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:59 pm

I believe it's the Z6, the odd-Z's are rush hour only....
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby jcepler1 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:39 pm

201 goes to the Burtonsville P&R. Metrobus Z7 goes there during rush hours. Z6 during middle of the day. Z11 during rush hour.
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby farecard » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:07 pm

jcepler1 wrote:201 goes to the Burtonsville P&R. Metrobus Z7 goes there during rush hours. Z6 during middle of the day. Z11 during rush hour.


And Sat/Sunday?
This whole mess started when WMATA stopped all Sat/Sun B30's.
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby jcepler1 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:54 am

Isn't this a rail forum? Take the red line to Union Station, MARC to BWI. Done.
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby STrRedWolf » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:34 pm

jcepler1 wrote:Isn't this a rail forum? Take the red line to Union Station, MARC to BWI. Done.


Which is the best thing now since MARC does run on Saturdays and Sundays.
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby mtuandrew » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:57 am

Surprised about this cut - isn't there an airport surcharge to make it a more profitable service? (Or does that just go back to MWAA?)

If only I were enterprising and had a Sprinter van. Of course, I'd still rather take the train, boarding either at WAS or (transferring from Blue/Yellow Rush+ to Orange/Silver) at NCR.
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Re: B30, now marked down to B19.95

Postby farecard » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:03 am

Not everyone wants to go down to Union Station and fight crowds to take MARC to then take a shuttle bus......

Anyone "right" of North Capitol would go to Greenbelt and take the B30. It's cheaper overall, and more frequent, I suspect. West of there, guess they can take the Red to the 201.

WMATA+MTA could have the 201 pull through Briggs-Cheney P&R to offer better connections to the Z's; "better" including weekends when the B30 is dark.
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