All 4000 series railcars being pulled from service

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Re: All 4000 series railcars being pulled from service

Postby Chris Brown » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:01 am

Not only are they rare events, but they also don't make 6 car trains a problem. You either break the train up into 2 or 4 cars... which is what would happen with an 8 car train anyway.

So again.. there is no good reason why 7k's can't run as 6 car trains. From my understanding.. the REAL reason is Metro wants to justify power upgrades for moving to 100% 8-car train operation. That is probably the only reason. Whether that is a "good" reason is subjective.
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Re: All 4000 series railcars being pulled from service

Postby MCL1981 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:14 pm

They're not good reasons according to YOU. But they're good reasons to everyone at Metro that's responsible for the operating, maintaining, and working with the equipment. If they all don't think it's a good idea, I would take their word for it before someone on the internet that just wants to see a few additional trains, and thinks because it technically could be done, it should be done.
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Re: All 4000 series railcars being pulled from service

Postby Chris Brown » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:49 pm

MCL1981 wrote:They're not good reasons according to YOU. But they're good reasons to everyone at Metro that's responsible for the operating, maintaining, and working with the equipment. If they all don't think it's a good idea, I would take their word for it before someone on the internet that just wants to see a few additional trains, and thinks because it technically could be done, it should be done.


The same people at Metro who have lead it into a death spiral over the last few years?.. I should just "take their word for it"? Fat chance.

A wise man once said: "When something doesn't make any sense its usually not true". The same logic applies to these reasons given not to run 7k cars as 6 car trains. None of the reasons make sense. Therefore, I don't buy them. I think it all boils down to Metro trying to get power upgrades for 100% 8 car operation. Which is great. But lets just call a spade a spade.
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Re: All 4000 series railcars being pulled from service

Postby Sand Box John » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:41 pm

"Chris Brown"
I think it all boils down to Metro trying to get power upgrades for 100% 8 car operation.


You don't need power upgrades on a railroad that runs 100% 8 car trains at 20 trains per hour. You do if you were running 25 or more train per hour, but that is moot because when all is said and done WMATA will still not have enough rolling stock to run 100% 8 car trains at anywhere near 25 train per hour.
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Re: All 4000 series railcars being pulled from service

Postby Robert Paniagua » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:22 am

Ive liked the 4Ks to lead in the front, they are the same exact age as the MBTA 01800 Bombardier-built Red Line cars, which have had no issues, but I hope they can work things out here with the WMATA 4Ks and restore them to normal function and I also feel they should be able to lead on trains, I don't understand why they are now no longer allowed to put on and end of a train.

I also hope the 7Ks get in much quicker or if not, retire some 4Ks, if they cant resolve the latest issue with them
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Re: All 4000 series railcars being pulled from service

Postby jackintosh11 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:43 am

Removing the 4000 series from the front of trains will also mean that all signs on the front of the train will be LED, which have much better visibility.
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