LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby tj48 » Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:30 pm

eehiv wrote:The CMRR now has 2940, 2949 (formerly 2977) and 2962. We are very pleased to have three identical coaches to work with.

Interestingly, the 2940 and 2962 have type 26 brake valves, but the 2949 has D22 brake valves. Anyone know why there is a difference?

EH

Forgive me but I must have missed something somewhere. I knew about 2 coaches, when did you folks purchase a third?
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby o484 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:51 am

New Hope & Ivyland has 7.

2804
2805
2816
2817
2820
2826
2834

All 7 of them are out of service and were acquired around 14 years ago. Three of them, 2816, 2817 and 2834 are painted in NH&I livery and one of them (2817) had its interior stripped and converted into a 3D maze for this past Halloween season.
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby jhdeasy » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:16 pm

I've started a roster for the disposition of the Pullman Standard P72 and P75 cars, which I have made available online at

http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/lirrp72p75classes.pdf

I compiled this roster from various internet discussion threads here at railroad.net, other websites, online photos and emails received from various people.

Corrections and updates are welcome.
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby dlandw » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:17 am

I guess my post about a pair of ex-LIRR MP coaches on the south shore of the St. Lawrence near Québec City would have been more appropriate here than in the "Ping Pong Coach in Indiana" thread, but I discovered the other thread first. :)

Here is a link to my post in that thread:
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=43830&start=15#p1324827

I'll check in on them next time I'm back there, and possibly provide some photos and details if I'm able.

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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby RGlueck » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:06 am

Where specifically near Quebec City? I get up there fairly often.
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby dlandw » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:04 am

Click on the link below, which will take you to the exact location of the adjacent business on Google Maps.
Click on Street View, then pan around 180° until you see the coaches.

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Cazes+ ... 38d73384b1

They are Zip cars -- sad to see them deteriorate. Now, the real question -- where did the FA2 painted in the same livery end up? I think I saw something about it in Railpace at one point, but I don't remember what happened to it.

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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby emfinite » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:13 am

Pack #616 went to New York & Greenwood Lake Railway and resides in Passaic, NJ at NYGL headquarters. It was purchased by them with plans to use it on a dinner train, but the idea never took off.
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby jhdeasy » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:28 pm

dlandw wrote:
Click on the link below, which will take you to the exact location of the adjacent business on Google Maps.
Click on Street View, then pan around 180° until you see the coaches.

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Cazes+ ... 38d73384b1

They are Zip cars -- sad to see them deteriorate.

- Al "dlandw"


Thank you "dlandw" Al. Two former LIRR Zip cars (MP75c or MP75T) and one former CN 1954 baggage car are visible in the Google view. My roster says this failed tourist train owned the former LIRR 2709, 2722 and 2841.

A couple of years ago, when I was visiting St. Anne de Beaupre on the north shore of the St Lawrence River about 15 miles east of downtown Quebec City, I observed some evidence of a dinner/excursion train that may have operated on the tracks that passed between the basilica and the river. Was that the route of the defunct Train Touristiques de Chaudiere-Appalaches?
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby dlandw » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:54 pm

jhdeasy wrote:A couple of years ago, when I was visiting St. Anne de Beaupre on the north shore of the St Lawrence River about 15 miles east of downtown Quebec City, I observed some evidence of a dinner/excursion train that may have operated on the tracks that passed between the basilica and the river. Was that the route of the defunct Train Touristiques de Chaudiere-Appalaches?


No, that was the Train du Massif du Sud, which is owned and operated by the ski hill of the same name. It operates between the eastern outskirts of Québec City (near Montmorency Falls) and La Malbaie, with a few shorter turns at Baie-St-Paul. They use Alco power (RS18s, I believe) and several Colorado Railcar bi-level coaches and dining cars.

I don't recall the exact route of the Train Touristique de Chaudière-Appalaches, but I believe it ran along a portion of the former Québec Central route between Vallée-Jonction and Sherbrooke.

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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby jhdeasy » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:33 pm

I've just discovered another survivor of the LIRR 72/75 fleet. The Wisconsin Great Northern Railroad (WGN) in Spooner WI has rebuilt one of the converted push-pull coaches into the chapel car EVERLASTING, and they offer weddings onboard The Great Wedding Train.

http://www.greatweddingtrain.com
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2119987
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1695278
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1031343
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2627031

Unfortunately, there are no good clues to the car's former LIRR numbers.
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby Nasadowsk » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:03 pm

Don't know if this was mentioned, but the Nickel & Dime Diner in Fort Smith, AR is PTCX 2557. Pretty sure it's an ex LI car...
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby jhdeasy » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:49 am

Thank you, I agree it is a former LIRR car and I have added the car to my roster of 72/75 survivors. Here are a few recent photos of the car.

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMJ6NF_Pullman_Dining_Car_Fort_Smith_AR

According to the rosters I have, LIRR did not own a car numbered 2557, so we don't know its original or final LIRR number.
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

Postby jhdeasy » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:29 am

Stone Mountain Railroad 1867 is probably the former LIRR 2867, while Stone Mountain Railroad 1871 is probably the former LIRR 2871. Both cars are looking quite forlorn and neglected; I think a date with the scrapper is more likely than a new owner providing a new home.

http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=2654

http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=2655

Updated roster of disposition of former LIRR P72 and P72 classes is available at http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/lirrp72p75classes.pdf

Correction and updates are always appreciated.
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Re: LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

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