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Float Bridge

Postby lirrmike » Wed May 12, 2004 1:49 am

While looking through this excellent site of photos, this part of a photo of the LIC yard from the 1970s caught my eye. At the lower left of the photo, below the old Pennsy powerplant you can see the remains of what I believe is an old Long Island float gantry. I don't ever remember seeing this on any map. I know the old LIC floats were just a bit north (more to the left) of the photo. Though in real bad shape, it sure looks like a float gantry to me. And you can tell it has been out of service for a real long time because there are building built behind it. Any history on this? Thanks.
Here is a link to the photo: http://pasquale.dhs.org/lirr/1970s/imag ... age141.htm


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Postby Dave Keller » Wed May 12, 2004 9:17 am

They are what's left of the float docks, seen in the photo below that I shot in January, 1971.

What you're looking at at the far left of the aerial photo would be the docks at the far left of my photo. You can see the tracks curving over to them,corresponding to the open, curving right-of-way shown on the aerial photo.

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Postby lirrmike » Wed May 12, 2004 10:59 am

Dave,

Maybe you're right. I will have to go down there myself and check this out. I didn't believe the floats were that close to the powerplant. You know both of the gantries are still there, all redone as part of an apartment complex's "Gantry Park"? Thanks.

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Postby Dave Keller » Thu May 13, 2004 2:14 pm

Mike:

Thanx for the info. I can't imagine the area being anything other than the railyard of my memory!!!

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Postby lirrmike » Thu May 13, 2004 2:27 pm

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Postby Dave Keller » Fri May 14, 2004 6:19 am

Mike:

Thanx for the link! Great shots!

BTW: I checked my Emery LIRR maps and that set of float docks was indeed close to the power house.

Also: The northernmost floats were numbered #1 and #2. These southern ones were numbered # 5 and #6.

There had been a #3 and #4 at one time but according to Bob Emery's notes they were retired a long while back. No idea of where they were in the relationship to the other floats.

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3 & 4 bridges

Postby dukeoq » Fri May 14, 2004 6:35 am

Mike and Dave;
Accordiing to some old timers, many years ago, 3 & 4 bridges were just south of 1 & 2.
Tracks leading to them were retained and used for set-outs of cars to be picked up later.
These were not "overhead bridges" as we know them but were but were floated on pontoons rather than by motorized lift.
The pontoon bridge is much like the Cross Harbor's.
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Postby RRChef » Fri May 14, 2004 7:35 am

Gantry Park is offically known as Gantry Plaza State Park and is part of the New York State Park system. In the past it was only open on weekends, but I believe it is now open daily. Floats 1 and 2 were cosmetically restored and there is some rail left to show the approaches to the floats.
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Postby Dave Keller » Fri May 14, 2004 9:27 am

JJ

Thanx for the clarification.

Looking at the map and my photos, I couldn't image another set of 2 float docks fitting in there without a jammed-up condition as they weren't all in a straight line.

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Postby lirrmike » Fri May 14, 2004 2:52 pm

Great hearing from you JJ! I remember that park always being open. Two+ years ago ( while the newer Apt House was going up) I spent the summer at our Ravenswood powerplant and I'd spend lunch time there and while watching all the nice young mommys (sorry ladies and glad my wife doesn't read this!) and just thinking about what used to be here, there were State Park people there all day. There is a picture in one of the harbor books - a MUST read! - of Unit #2's generator of the Island Park Power Station on a depressed flat that just came off the floats, did you handle that JJ?

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Postby dukeoq » Sun May 16, 2004 6:26 am

I seem to rememmber something like that coming in.
When did it come?
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Postby lirrmike » Sun May 16, 2004 10:24 am

JJ,

I'd have to dig out the book, but that part of the plant was built around 1962 or 3. And on a side note it's still running! Plus it's one of the best of the system.

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Postby alchemist » Tue May 25, 2004 2:46 pm

As long as we're thinking about float bridges in LIC, don't forget the old Pigeon Terminal RR, a little south of lirrmike's photo, on the north bank of Newtown Creek. It still existed into the '70s and showed on PA maps of port facilities.
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Depressed flat/ Pidgeon street

Postby dukeoq » Wed May 26, 2004 6:44 am

Mike, the one I rememmber was around 1969.

RE: Pidgeon Street float.

That was operated by BEDT.
They serviced the sugar house(Jack Frost?)and later the NY Daily News plant. For some time, a major customer was a distributor for Miller beer.
The engine was floated, along with
the cars, from thier main yard at Kent Ave., Brooklyn.
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