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article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby BM6569 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:09 pm

Interesting picture of a ticket. I'm not sure I've seen one in that style before. Steve, I didn't see that style on your ticket page?

http://liherald.com/stories/recalling-r ... ter,112009
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby nyandw » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:22 pm

BM6569 wrote:Interesting picture of a ticket. I'm not sure I've seen one in that style before. Steve, I didn't see that style on your ticket page?
http://liherald.com/stories/recalling-r ... ter,112009


:-) Thanks for the info. I can't have everything! Anyone else seen this style? (Form UB) or Form UB (9114)?
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby tomdoyle409 » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:49 pm

Let's also keep in mind that just about nine months later, there was the Kew Gardens wreck on Thanksgiving eve. It was unfortunate that these two tragedies had to be the impetus, for LIRR management to embark on a long overdue speed control program.
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby Kelly&Kelly » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:37 pm

It wasn't the LIRR's management that was dragging its feet on installing speed control. The Railroad was bankrupt. The State of New York had been bleeding it for decades in an effort to force the PRR to turn it over to the State. For nearly 40 years, the State's PSC would not grant the railroad a fare increase or an increase in its freight rates. Nonetheless, the State increased the Railroad's taxes an average of 4% per year. There simply was no money left for anything besides taxes.

When the wrecks of 1950 occurred, it was common knowledge that "the blood was on the State's hands". Political fallout from the wrecks and the 100+ last lives got immediate State funding for automatic speed control on the Port Washington Branch, and wider funding later through the Railroad Redevelopment Act.
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby nyandw » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:37 am

BM6569 wrote:Interesting picture of a ticket. I'm not sure I've seen one in that style before. Steve, I didn't see that style on your ticket page?
http://liherald.com/stories/recalling-r ... ter,112009


BM6569: Based on your post, thank you, I revised the ticket page and added material on these photo tickets (as well as station number ID info) as follows: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/Tickets/tickets.htm :-) Note: it is Form WB = Weekly - Brooklyn Form UB = Unrestricted Monthly - Brooklyn The number (9114) is the Jamaica station number as indicated in the Station Numbers section I posted. All unique-to-a-station tickets had the station number printed.
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby BM6569 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:17 am

You're welcome. And I learned something new!
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby BM6569 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:21 am

Did the passenger supply their own photos?
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby Kelly&Kelly » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:01 pm

The railroad took the photos at a photo booth in Penn Station and perhaps other places.
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby nyandw » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:14 pm

[quote="Kelly&Kelly"]The railroad took the photos at a photo booth in Penn Station and perhaps other places.[/quote

That would be an interesting picture of this "facility".
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby Kelly&Kelly » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:49 pm

We learned of the practice from a newspaper ad from that era. Perhaps 30 years ago we also came across a green sign for the "Commuter Ticket Photos -->" that was stored in the PA system amplifier room on Track 17/18 in Penn Station. Long gone now, along with the Western Electric vacuum tube amplifiers that heated up that room.
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby BuddR32 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:55 am

Kelly&Kelly wrote:We learned of the practice from a newspaper ad from that era. Perhaps 30 years ago we also came across a green sign for the "Commuter Ticket Photos -->" that was stored in the PA system amplifier room on Track 17/18 in Penn Station. Long gone now, along with the Western Electric vacuum tube amplifiers that heated up that room.

Love to know what became of those, hopefully something other than trash
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Re: article on RVC wreck anniversary w/ticket pic

Postby Nasadowsk » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:31 pm

Kelly&Kelly wrote:We learned of the practice from a newspaper ad from that era. Perhaps 30 years ago we also came across a green sign for the "Commuter Ticket Photos -->" that was stored in the PA system amplifier room on Track 17/18 in Penn Station. Long gone now, along with the Western Electric vacuum tube amplifiers that heated up that room.


Not a surprise. Back then, there weren't any other choices for real heavy duty PA amplifiers. Maybe RCA was making something? In the 50's and 60's, your choices were more or less McIntosh, Altec/Lansing, Crown. Dukane and RCA too, but those would probably be lower tier.

WE made a lot of amps, not all were that great. It was an early era in the technology, and the post WWII advances were pretty big.
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