"Let off Steam" Final run of steam-heated coaches Date ID?

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"Let off Steam" Final run of steam-heated coaches Date ID?

Postby nyandw » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:44 pm

Sent to me, no date provided: "My guess is this event happened in the mid to late 1970s. I’ll speculate this was a train of steam heated P72 coaches pulled by an Alco Century 420. The consist may have included a heavyweight private commuter club car, or maybe one of the Phoebe Snow observation cars working in that role...Eventually, all of the P72 coaches were converted from steam heat to electric heat, which was powered by the car’s own diesel generator system...

If one of you has an old timetable, you may be able to identify the train number based on the 4:34 PM departure time from Hunterspoint Avenue and the destination of Port Jefferson..."
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Postby 4behind2 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:45 am

1978.

The last train most likely was Tr. 658. 2900's and 7000 ex B&M cars.

For years there was a "Mike and Ike" hand made plaque in the Trainman's room in Port Jefferson, with two steam metallics and the last date.
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Postby Nasadowsk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:21 pm

Didn't 'We serve with pride' come in during the Gabreski era? That'd narrow it down a bit..
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Postby FrankAndCindy » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:26 pm

hi everyone, I believe it is train 648 with 16 mixed coaches. Thanks Frank and Cindy
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Postby nyandw » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:45 pm

[quote="4behind2"]1978. The last train most likely was Tr. 658. 2900's and 7000 ex B&M cars.

I found this in the ETT #2, effective May 20, 1974. It indicates train #656 leaving Hunterspoint Avenue at 4:34 pm, arriving at Port Jefferson at 6:24 pm. BUT, not definitive.

4behind2: Was that from the timetable? "The last train most likely was Tr. 658. 2900's and 7000 ex B&M cars.
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Re: "Let off Steam" Final run of steam-heated coaches Date I

Postby C-LINER 2001 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:56 pm

It was Mid-March 1979.
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Postby MACTRAXX » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:53 pm

Nasadowsk wrote:Didn't 'We serve with pride' come in during the Gabreski era? That'd narrow it down a bit..

Yes...Frank Gabreski was President of the LIRR during the years 1978 to 1981. MACTRAXX
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Re: "Let off Steam" Final run of steam-heated coaches Date I

Postby jhdeasy » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:28 pm

FrankAndCindy wrote:hi everyone, I believe it is train 648 with 16 mixed coaches. Thanks Frank and Cindy


I find it hard to believe that any Port Jefferson train of the 1970s operated with 16 mixed (as in P72, former B&M/BAR, and possibly other heritage) coaches. Maybe 10 to 12 coaches at the maximum would be consistent with all that I have seen, read and been told.
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Postby FrankAndCindy » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:35 pm

Hello jhdeasy, Years ago I worked this train with 16 mixed cars. The next port jeff train had 15 p72 and p75 cars . I worked that one too. That would be Old man Kenny Kempsters train. Thanks Frank and Cindy
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Postby 4behind2 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:24 am

In much later years, Tr. 664 had 13 cars, all 2900's (p72's), with the bar car and the Hofstra car.

You could also buy Produce from the Hostler who had a farm in Mattituck.................
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Postby nyandw » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:50 pm

"Pass steel car roster" by Jeff Erlitz. The last steam train was 3/8/1979, a Port Jeff run.......consist was 228, 7546, 7537, 7536, 7530, 7525, 7541, 7549, 2968, 2974 and 2911 This also coincided with the retirement of the B&M P-74B cars (the 2900's had a "dual mode" diesel generator by then so did not need steam any more. Research: Doug Nash

Anyone can ID the Train number?
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Re: "Let off Steam" Final run of steam-heated coaches Date I

Postby nyandw » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:34 pm

Was this train #656? Thanks.
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