Curious About Valley Interlocking

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Curious About Valley Interlocking

Postby interface76 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:32 pm

I was riding on the Babylon Branch yesterday, and as we passed through VALLEY, I couldn't help but wonder...

Looking south out of an eastbound train, I noticed that not only is the entire yard around the tower elevated, but the trestle seems to have been built to the shape of a full wye. The eastern section curves in the same way as a track would, though of course today there are obviously no tracks and the curve is lined with office trailers for the yard crew.

I went here (http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/farroc ... branch.htm) and tried to follow along with time frames. Seems like the elevation was finished in 1932, but the 1958 Emery map only shows the (as current today) partial wye. The map showing the full wye is shown as 1923, when the area was at grade.

Did the wye survive into the early parts of the elevated years? If so, what was it used for? Seems like a cool service they could have offered back in the day, Babylon/Montauk trains being able to access the Rockaways (using the assumption that the entire RBB was also intact at the time).
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Re: Curious About Valley Interlocking

Postby vince » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:22 pm

>>>> @ interface76,
There never was a wye there after track was elevated in 1932.
The bridge over Sunrise Highway connects to a concrete wall filled structure similar to the Hall (east) Jamaica elevated structure, concrete walls filled with . . .fill. The n/s street east of the bridge has a vehicle ramp from street level to track level. I used to ride my bicycle up there to watch the team tracks being used and usually being chased out of there by the RR folks.
I modeled this area in detail to what it was in 1955 in my **Open Rails Train Simulator I released as a public beta about a year ago, available for free download at the trainsim.com file library.
some pictures here >>>===> https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/album.php?albumid=248
and a video here >>>===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkJzw0MwL1k

There is one picture of the LIRR route at Valley but trust me, I made it accurate to the Emery Maps and in fact gave credit to him in the video. The route comes with many activities running over all the presently avalible trackage, basically everything West of Mineola/Mitchell Field/Long Beach (LB shown in the video)

Regards,
vince

**Open Rails Train Simulator is a free open source program written over the last 6 years by members of the train simulator and railfan community that will run all present routes and models made for Microsoft Train Simulator.

Available here: >>>===> http://openrails.org/download/program/
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Re: Curious About Valley Interlocking

Postby workextra » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:23 pm

Interface,
The wye at Valley was removed after the grade crossing elimination project in the early 1930’s with the middle of the former wye becoming a freight/MoW yard With a freight house too.

In theory though, with a replacement of the bridge across NY27 you could very easily restore the wye at Valley.
It would be nice to have the wye just to have it, but theirs no need for the wye there today unless they plan to restore the Rockaway-Oyster Bay routing.
I’ve seen a few photos somewhere, possibly on “arrts-archives” or “Trainsarefun”
That shows Valley before and after.
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Re: Curious About Valley Interlocking

Postby nyandw » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:47 pm

workextra wrote:Interface,
The wye at Valley was removed after the grade crossing elimination project in the early 1930’s with the middle of the former wye becoming a freight/MoW yard With a freight house too.

In theory though, with a replacement of the bridge across NY27 you could very easily restore the wye at Valley.
It would be nice to have the wye just to have it, but theirs no need for the wye there today unless they plan to restore the Rockaway-Oyster Bay routing.
I’ve seen a few photos somewhere, possibly on “arrts-archives” or “Trainsarefun”
That shows Valley before and after.


http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/farroc ... branch.htm
ELEVATED TEMPORARY TRACKS AND PLATFORMS ON FAR ROCKAWAY BRANCH IN SVC: 2/7/33

3rd ELEVATED, CENTER-ISLAND STRUCTURE NORTH OF FORMER LOCATION IN SVC: 6/27/33. ELEVATED JCT. OF W. HEMPSTEAD BRANCH IN SVC: 9/10/33 Dave Keller
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