LIRR #497998

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Re: LIRR #497998

Postby MACTRAXX » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:05 am

Steve: The boxcars are from left to right -
Rock Island, Canadian Pacific, Missouri Pacific, ? , Norfolk and Western; Frisco.
All but the N&W car are in traditional boxcar red. This is a good picture for a LIRR modeler.
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Re: LIRR #497998

Postby nyandw » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:54 am

MACTRAXX wrote:Steve: The boxcars are from left to right -Rock Island, Canadian Pacific, Missouri Pacific, ? , Norfolk and Western; Frisco.All but the N&W car are in traditional boxcar red. This is a good picture for a LIRR modeler. MACTRAXX


Thank you, Mike. Actually a great picture. It's all roofwalk, 40' boxcar red cars. Thus pre-1968.
1. How did you ID the N&W car (I'm searching for a match to this herald...) to place the car date (within the 1960s) and thus perhaps narrow the the photo date?


My questions are concerning a long term project, I have been making of photo scenes as this one, that I have been noting the location, date, freight car types, etc. for both modeling/historical reference. :-)
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Re: LIRR #497998

Postby scopelliti » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:46 am

Yes, yes, yes! Great detail on the look of the buildings in back, the 55 gallon drums and associated detritus, the green grass along the rails, weathering on the cabooses, etc.
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Re: LIRR #497998

Postby scopelliti » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:50 am

Crabman1130 wrote:
RGlueck wrote:In the 1960's, there was agray and orange reach car at Bay Ridge, with an orange cabin on it. Emblazoned in the rear-end of the house was a black bat, lifted directly from the "Bat-Man" television show logo. Over it was neatly painted "Bat-Car".

I tried to post a picture of it, but the photo contained too many pixels. I don't use a hosting site like photobook, so I have no other way to post it.

I can get it converted to a lower resolution/size etc. and hosted. Message me for an email address.
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Re: LIRR #497998

Postby AlKaLI » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:49 am

nyandw wrote:
MACTRAXX wrote:Steve: The boxcars are from left to right -Rock Island, Canadian Pacific, Missouri Pacific, ? , Norfolk and Western; Frisco.All but the N&W car are in traditional boxcar red. This is a good picture for a LIRR modeler. MACTRAXX


Thank you, Mike. Actually a great picture. It's all roofwalk, 40' boxcar red cars. Thus pre-1968.
1. How did you ID the N&W car (I'm searching for a match to this herald...) to place the car date (within the 1960s) and thus perhaps narrow the the photo date?

Steve:

Please see link: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=4886476

If you look just above the radiator of the #445, you can see on the left side of the boxcar the "N&W" in the middle of the circle. Also a little hard to tell but on the right side of the boxcar looks like "NORFOLK", thus N&W.

Real great photo. The N&W box seems to be in faded black? with a silver roof? Hard to tell but does it have a roofwalk? Possibly removed already thus dating the picture so more?
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Re: LIRR #497998

Postby freightguy » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:40 pm

Wonder what all those “s” denotes discarded by the 55 gallon drums?
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Re: LIRR #497998

Postby nyandw » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:17 pm

AlKaLI wrote:
nyandw wrote:
MACTRAXX wrote:If you look just above the radiator of the #445, you can see on the left side of the boxcar the "N&W" in the middle of the circle. Also a little hard to tell but on the right side of the boxcar looks like "NORFOLK", thus N&W. Real great photo. The N&W box seems to be in faded black? with a silver roof? Hard to tell but does it have a roofwalk? Possibly removed already thus dating the picture so more?


So the N&W herald is a 1950's vintage, but if the roofwalk is gone I use this as a guide: Not conclusive, but I would date the photo c.1968. A higher res photo, with roofwalk, perhaps c.1962... Guys?


Note: When in the D&H yard, Oneonta, NY in 1971 almost every boxcar had no roofwalk. Seems the railroads tore them off ASAP!

AAR INTERCHANGE RULES BY YEAR

1966: 10/01/66 Federal ban on running boards for new cars delivered
1967: 1/01/1967 High mount hand brakes prohibited on new cars
1968: ACI labels introduced
1970: Initial proposed date to require ACI labels in interchange
1972: Final date for ACI labels required in interchange. AAR recommends single-panel COTS stencil, for new & rebuilt cars
1974: Running boards to be removed from all cars (extended). Two-panel COTS stencil required by FRA, all cars
1978: White dot/yellow dot wheel inspection begins. ACI labels no longer required for interchange
1981: White dot/yellow dot wheel inspection ends
1982: Third version COTS, Jan 1 1982
1983: Running boards outlawed on all boxcars/reefers
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Re: LIRR #497998

Postby Crabman1130 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:40 pm

scopelliti wrote:
Crabman1130 wrote:
RGlueck wrote:In the 1960's, there was agray and orange reach car at Bay Ridge, with an orange cabin on it. Emblazoned in the rear-end of the house was a black bat, lifted directly from the "Bat-Man" television show logo. Over it was neatly painted "Bat-Car".

I tried to post a picture of it, but the photo contained too many pixels. I don't use a hosting site like photobook, so I have no other way to post it.

I can get it converted to a lower resolution/size etc. and hosted. Message me for an email address.

Thanks, I was able to lower the resolution and post it.
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Re: LIRR #497998

Postby nyandw » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:55 pm

OK, this is a car used for hump switching purposes and the ones without a shanty are the float reacher cars, yes??

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