[PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

Moderator: Liquidcamphor

[PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby newkirk » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:44 pm

Any comments and input are welcome.
Looking towards the Rockaway peninsula. Should the steel structure be for the NYCTA Rockaway line station and overpass ? June 25, 1955


Image

I believe the photographer turned around and faced north towards Hamilton Beach. Correct ? June 25, 1955
Image
Bill Mangahas (AKA Newkirk Images LLC)
Train to Rockaway Park now boarding on Track 22
User avatar
newkirk
 
Posts: 224
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:39 pm
Location: Farmingdale,NY

Re: [PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby krispy » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:29 pm

Amazing how much that view has changed since then. Didn't take long from cessation of service to the time the pics were taken for the sand to pile up around the rail, I wonder if that was once a regular task, clearing sand from the ROW other there. Thanks for posting!
krispy
 
Posts: 378
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:56 pm

Re: [PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby railfaned » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:32 pm

Wow, Sand??? I thought it was snow!
ED,
40 year commuter-railfan and model railroader,
Ex-Long Islander
railfaned
 
Posts: 95
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:14 am
Location: The Villages, FL

Re: [PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby newkirk » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:18 pm

Krispy wrote: Amazing how much that view has changed since then. Didn't take long from cessation of service to the time the pics were taken for the sand to pile up around the rail, I wonder if that was once a regular task, clearing sand from the ROW other there. Thanks for posting!


Wow, over two hundred views and finally two replies. Those photos left everyone speechless. lol

You're welcome for your complement. Are the two captions for those photos correct ?

Also, would it be safe to assume that where those tracks were, underneath all those tall weeds etc, that the tracks are still there ?

I would guess the city did not remove those abandoned tracks since the current (A) subway line is only yards away.
Bill Mangahas (AKA Newkirk Images LLC)
Train to Rockaway Park now boarding on Track 22
User avatar
newkirk
 
Posts: 224
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:39 pm
Location: Farmingdale,NY

Re: [PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby newkirk » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:21 pm

railfaned wrote: Wow, Sand??? I thought it was snow!


Unless it snowed in June. lol
Bill Mangahas (AKA Newkirk Images LLC)
Train to Rockaway Park now boarding on Track 22
User avatar
newkirk
 
Posts: 224
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:39 pm
Location: Farmingdale,NY

Re: [PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby krispy » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:33 pm

I stand corrected, that's snow. Doesn't say much about my vision plan, LOL. But as for the old rail, that's a good question. I have ninja'd portions of that shoreline at certain times (not permitted but if you suck for fly casting on a kayak...) and don't recall seeing any buried rail. When that area transitioned to Gateway back in the '70s Moses and a few others jumped in to change things before it went to the Feds, like demolishing the Raunt, etc and they could've ordered the rail lifted if it was still there after the NYCTA takeover. But i'd guess it was taken as the NYCTA widened the row considerably to make room for a layup and cleaning yard for their scoot operation and lifted the rail and ties then. I had always wondered why they did that there instead of using the available space in Rockaway Park yard, maybe someone can chime in.
krispy
 
Posts: 378
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:56 pm

Re: [PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby newkirk » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:00 pm

Thanks Krispy,

In both photos, I noticed a couple of the cross bars on the utility poles on an angle. Porbably from tearing down the copper wires ?
Bill Mangahas (AKA Newkirk Images LLC)
Train to Rockaway Park now boarding on Track 22
User avatar
newkirk
 
Posts: 224
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:39 pm
Location: Farmingdale,NY

Re: [PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby vince » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:30 am

@krispy:
Snow? Those trees in the background are a might pretty green . . . and they are not evergreen trees either. The small bushes also tell a summer story.
Don't let the color of the sand fool you. That's not snow. Couldn'y be with the trees. The south shore of Long Island has some of the purest white sand beaches in the world.

Re: the steel structure. Can't be the Not MTA tower as the Liberty Ave 'EL' is missing. Oops . . .Where the el is it?
Possibly it's the Broad Channel station under construction?
It's very easy to check out as there are more than one front end window videos on You Tube of of the 'A' trains crossing Jamaca Bay.

The NY Transit Authority re-graded the entire line filling in with sand pumped in from the channel dredges, constructed two new steel drawbridges and laying a new roadbed exactly where the LIRR ROW ran.

regards,
vince
Rosedale
vince
 
Posts: 87
Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:05 pm

Re: [PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby newkirk » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:10 am

vince wrote:krispy:
Snow? Those trees in the background are a might pretty green . . . and they are not evergreen trees either. The small bushes also tell a summer story.
Don't let the color of the sand fool you. That's not snow. Couldn'y be with the trees. The south shore of Long Island has some of the purest white sand beaches in the world.

Re: the steel structure. Can't be the Not MTA tower as the Liberty Ave 'EL' is missing. Oops . . .Where the el is it?
Possibly it's the Broad Channel station under construction?
It's very easy to check out as there are more than one front end window videos on You Tube of of the 'A' trains crossing Jamaca Bay.

The NY Transit Authority re-graded the entire line filling in with sand pumped in from the channel dredges, constructed two new steel drawbridges and laying a new roadbed exactly where the LIRR ROW ran.

regards,
vince
Rosedale


The sand appears white because the image was a bit overexposed by the photographer. I had to correct this in PhotoShop. Hence the sand having a white color and not the usual light tan. Since the name Broad Channel was written on the original slides, that structure would have to be the Broad Channel station overpass. Also it's nice to know the new subway right of way was constructed over the footprints of the old LIRR Rockaway division.
Bill Mangahas (AKA Newkirk Images LLC)
Train to Rockaway Park now boarding on Track 22
User avatar
newkirk
 
Posts: 224
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:39 pm
Location: Farmingdale,NY

Re: [PHOTOS] Abandoned Rockaway Division In Broad Channel

Postby Crabman1130 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:25 pm

I agree that it's Broad Channel station. It has 2 tracks, as Howard Beach has 4.
Crabman1130
 
Posts: 847
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:00 am


Return to Long Island Rail Road (LIRR)

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests