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US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby CentralValleyRail » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:36 am

We are approaching this rather rapidly considering it was announced 5 plus years ago and there is less than 8 months to go...

Are there any plans to run specials trains out to "Southampton College Station" with a temporary platform across from the entrance? Under transportation for the event it talks about a shuttle bus but no word of LIRR (at least yet)

I know there was service in 1992 and 2004 but cannot find the 2004 schedule using wayback machine. Does anyone have a copy they can post?
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby JamesRR » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:40 am

This article from January 2017 mentions possible discussions with the LIRR about building a temporary station.

I imagine they would want to do this to reduce the amount of vehicular traffic.

http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/ ... cock-Hills
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby electricron » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:37 pm

The 2018 US Open will be the fifth held here. What did LIRR do the other four times?
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby MACTRAXX » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:08 pm

Everyone:

I found these two topics about the US Open back in 2004:
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=2479
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=3598
The LIRR Forum Archives contain these topics and since Railroad.net in its current form began
in 2004 it was actually somewhat easy to find.

There more then likely be a temporary station constructed for the 2018 US Open golf tournament
similar to what was there in 2004. Back then almost 75,000 attendees used the LIRR...

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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby JamesRR » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:21 am

Can't seem to find any pictures of the 2004 temporary station. Hopefully this time around someone will document it, as it's not everyday they build a temporary station.
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby SwingMan » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:20 am

So, per the numbers provided from back in 2004:

The final figures for the U.S. Open LIRR service, as per the LIRR employee newsletter, are:

Nearly 75,000 customers total

Saturday 16,744
Sunday 15,213
Friday 14,072
Thursday 12,813
Wednesday 7,629
Tuesday 4,959
Monday 2,985

Train 2602 on Thursday was the busiest train, carrying 1,927 customers in 7 [?] (TIMACS printout showed 7 cars) bilevel coaches. (Can you say. "Sardines"?)

132 of 134 C-3 coaches owned were in service.

Very interesting numbers. A lot will have changed by the time the 2018 U.S. Open begins. Some key things to note for 2018 that will be different from 2004:

- No more manual block over this portion of the railroad. The station will be nestled in between the two new interlockings: SH (Southampton) and RPK (Hampton Bays).

- The prospect of 21 MARC cars. It is unclear if they will be on the property by that point, but if they are they will not be wasted. The railroad has not added any power since 2004, so they are still strapped of locomotives at this point.

- Trains to Montauk are longer than they were in 2004. Trains 8702-8706 going east generally consisted from anywhere between 8-12 cars consistantly throughout this summer. Not even 5-10 years ago this was not the case, especially not in 2004. The Open is actually in about the best time of the summer for it to take place, as the period between Memorial Day and Independence Day is generally the lightest travel period to the East End between May-September.

I am agreement that it needs to be documented better. Luckily, we live in a time where we have all the resources in the palm of our hands. Even back in 2004 smartphones were just a futuristic thought.
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby nyandw » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:35 pm

Shinnecock Hills: 2 2004 Dave Keller Station History: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirrphotos/LIRR%20STATION%20HISTORY.pdf

Shinnecock Hills: 2 The former site of “Southampton College” Station. 528’ west of MP86. Site temporarily reused as a station stop for US Open: 6/2004. Listed on Special Timetables as “Shinnecock Hills.” Temporary high level platform 2 cars in length erected. Although pedestrians had to walk over the Tuckahoe Rd. crossing, a pedestrian crossover was installed over the highway. All structures removed and station stop discontinued after the golf tournament ended.

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LIRR Timetable US Open 06/20/2004 Archive: Al Castelli

Please post other material to add to this history as you can! Thank you, Steve
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby LB » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:15 am

NYANDW, I emailed you 4 photos of the 1986 US Open Special at the then South Hampton College Station, which you are welcome to post.
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby nyandw » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:41 pm

LB wrote:NYANDW, I emailed you 4 photos of the 1986 US Open Special at the then South Hampton College Station, which you are welcome to post.


Thank you! :-)

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/odds_ends.htm

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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby CentralValleyRail » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:55 pm

Does anyone have a copy of the 2004 schedule that they can share? here or in PM Thanks
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby nyandw » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:52 pm

CentralValleyRail wrote:Does anyone have a copy of the 2004 schedule that they can share? here or in PM Thanks


Ditto, Would like to see it!
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby brettj22 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:56 pm

Given the reference to the motive power shortage, are the MP15ac's configured for use with coaches still?
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:02 pm

The remaining MP-15's can tow a C-3 car/consist if needed,but cannot supply HEP or MU to the C-3's.
The MP-15's that were modded as "power packs" to supply 600 VDC to the MP75's/72's have had that mod disabled/removed.
LIRR might "borrow" a few BL20G's From MN to be used with the loaned MARC equipment as a possiblty.
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby ConstanceR46 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:46 am

That will be a bigger sight to see than the MARC cars; a executioner decending on the LIRR! The first one that will be in service off of the metro-north in NY, even for a small period.
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Re: US Open Golf (Shinnecock Hills) 2018 Service

Postby CentralValleyRail » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:50 pm

ConstanceR46 wrote:That will be a bigger sight to see than the MARC cars; a executioner decending on the LIRR! The first one that will be in service off of the metro-north in NY, even for a small period.



Is that the plan to run extra trains with MNRR equipment? or just a railbuffs dream>? lol
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