LIRR Protects at Harold

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LIRR Protects at Harold

Postby freightguy » Wed May 31, 2017 5:07 am

In today's Long Island Newsday, there is a pic of an Amtrak engine towing LIRR M7's from the tunnel. Is there any thoughts of bringing back the LIRR protect engines at Harold? I guess it's been about 6 years or so they haven't used them.
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Re: LIRR Protects at Harold

Postby geico » Wed May 31, 2017 7:37 am

Given Amtrak's track record as of late, the Harold Protect engines probably could have gotten to the 2nd train before the Amtrak engine did coming from Sunnyside.

Since Newsday has it wrong, the lead train stuck was towed by the penn protect ACS-64 in to Penn, while the Amtrak diesel from Sunnyside pulled the 2nd train back out of the tunnel. The lead train did not continue on its own.
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Re: LIRR Protects at Harold

Postby Head-end View » Wed May 31, 2017 8:42 pm

Amtrak uses a new ACS-64 as a protect engine?
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Re: LIRR Protects at Harold

Postby geico » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:13 am

Usually theres an ACS-64 sitting somewhere west of Penn for protect purposes. used to be an AEM-7 or HHP-8 when they were around.
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Re: LIRR Protects at Harold

Postby ExCon90 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Head-end View wrote:Amtrak uses a new ACS-64 as a protect engine?

It would seem that a protect engine should be able to perform as well as a road unit if that's what it's replacing.
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Re: LIRR Protects at Harold

Postby Head-end View » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:44 pm

No argument there. Just my vision of a protect engine is usually an older unit that's been bumped down from front-line road service to a less demanding assignment.
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Re: LIRR Protects at Harold

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:11 pm

LIRR let the 2 SW-1001's that were set up to protect the East River Tubes become regular switchers after the West Side Yard went online.
Now there might 2 SW-1001's left to handle work trains/rescue power duty to Atlantic Terminal(Flatbush Ave). Go figure?
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Re: LIRR Protects at Harold

Postby DogBert » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:38 am

Backshophoss wrote:LIRR let the 2 SW-1001's that were set up to protect the East River Tubes become regular switchers after the West Side Yard went online.
Now there might 2 SW-1001's left to handle work trains/rescue power duty to Atlantic Terminal(Flatbush Ave). Go figure?


Cutting the protect crew always seemed shortsighted to me. Now those SWs are just sitting unused and this probably won't be the last incident of it's kind in the weeks, months and years ahead. I guess MTA brass rather leave riders in tunnels, maybe without lighting or AC, like they did to those F subway train riders a few days back. What could go wrong?
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