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Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby Teutobergerwald » Sun May 28, 2017 8:51 am

Saw MP-15ac 150 pulling the red firefighting tankcar eastbound through Hicksville yesterday just before noon with 164. Getting sent out to KO for the summer ?????
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby tahawus84 » Sun May 28, 2017 8:05 pm

its on the siding west of hicksville as of this afternoon
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby nyandw » Sun May 28, 2017 9:09 pm

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LIRR #5001 Ronkonkoma, NY 07/07/08 East end of yard by Knickerbocker Ave. Photo: Mike McDermet
The small motor under the middle of the car so it can pump its own water. Info: Bob Anderson
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby BuddR32 » Tue May 30, 2017 12:46 am

How does one railroad have two pieces of equipment with the same number?

Cab car 5001 & this one?
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby nyandw » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:23 pm

BuddR32 wrote:How does one railroad have two pieces of equipment with the same number? Cab car 5001 & this one?


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Cab Car #5001

Perhaps as the MOW tank car is reporting marks: LI 5001 and the cab is under MTA/LIRR/ ?? etc. Just my proposal, please let others clarify.
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby geico » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:04 am

nyandw wrote:Image
LIRR #5001 Ronkonkoma, NY 07/07/08 East end of yard by Knickerbocker Ave. Photo: Mike McDermet
The small motor under the middle of the car so it can pump its own water. Info: Bob Anderson


How useful is this tanker? Considering they usually bury it in the back of the yard. After moving the blocking train, its 2 moves to get it to go east
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby Train2009 » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:05 am

Teutobergerwald wrote:Saw MP-15ac 150 pulling the red firefighting tankcar eastbound through Hicksville yesterday just before noon with 164. Getting sent out to KO for the summer ?????


I saw it too at 10:23 AM last Saturday morning in Queens Village.
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby nyandw » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:19 pm

Here's #5000 at KO last May 20, 2016 Image
Photo: Edward Hand
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby DaveBarraza » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:48 pm

How useful is this tanker? Considering they usually bury it in the back of the yard. After moving the blocking train, its 2 moves to get it to go east


They keep it in the same place they keep the plow, not really buried --but I've never seen it with any loco attached, so there's that. Would the DM30 used on the scoot be allowed to connect with an adapter coupler?
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:05 pm

Believe both Tank cars were bought used and converted to the Fire protection use,the couplers are "Shelf"couplers that are FRA mandated,
So anything with a regular coupler can move them.(A DE/DM would be a "Last resort" however.)
The Shelf Coupler keeps the tank car from derailing if a truck broke away from the bolster on the car.
The cars may have been used in the past for Gas or Diesel Fuel loads.
The amount of water carried in the tank can be equal to 6 FD water tankers or more.
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby fender52 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:01 am

I know one was used during the Pine Barrens fire. I saw it in front of Westhampton being refilled.

Metro North has one or two also.
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby geico » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:25 am

I guess my point is, how useful is the tanker by the time they can get it to where they need it.... especially without an engine coupled?
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby CarterB » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:35 am

Exactly how is this car used? Only as a water carrier, or does it have its own fire fighting equip, nozzles?
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:14 pm

The main use is to supply water to the Fire Dept engines when the fire can affect the ROW in forest locations.
Has an onboard pump to supply water to a spray type nozzle mounted next to the tank car dome.
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Re: Fire-fighting Tankcar

Postby freightguy » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:29 pm

Metro North North White Plains shop just repainted their similar water tank. It's back up in Brewster, NY on the Harlem line which is ironically the same distance from the city as Ronkonkoma give or take.

I've seen a corn oil tank car accidentally coupled up to a retired LIRR single level coach. Took a bit to separate that hitch. I believe the shelf style coupler is also to prevent equipment from separating or rolling over easy.
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