LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summer)

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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Amtrak7 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:23 pm

Can't give all the credit to MARC, the Independence Day program called for a 2 car Oyster Bay cycle and the Memorial Day program did not

But both 658 and 660 kept their 8 car sets.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:15 pm

There's been reports of the MARC Cars A/C units have failed,the "source" material comes from the Murdock controlled NY Post newspaper. :(
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Silverliner II » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:43 pm

SEPTA never had any problems with them, and SEPTA had all 8 of the cars that came up to the LIRR. As many times as I rode them while they were here, only once did I encounter a warm car, and it was swapped out of the set within a day. It's not like they don't have occasional HVAC issues with the C3's (and they are not much to look at inside, either, IMO) or the MU's, especially the M3's. And perhaps the fact that they had to jury-rig the connections to the locomotives may have a slight unintended effect on things?

Humph. 1950's-vintage equipment, indeed? The MARC cars are at least two years newer than the M3's and have the same seats, albeit in different colors. Give them a bit of time, and they'll do just fine.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby newkirk » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:55 pm

Silverliner II quote: "And perhaps the fact that they had to jury-rig the connections to the locomotives may have a slight unintended effect on things?"

Maybe dutchrailnut can chime in and see if that theory holds water.

Now if the MARC cars are warm or hot, the LIRR would repair them and bill MARC ?

Is that how it works ?
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby STrRedWolf » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:01 am

newkirk wrote:Silverliner II quote: "And perhaps the fact that they had to jury-rig the connections to the locomotives may have a slight unintended effect on things?"

Maybe dutchrailnut can chime in and see if that theory holds water.


From what I've seen, the MARC II's are being put on LIRR engines, not Amtrak engines. MARC cars and cabs are compatible with Amtrak engines. SEPTA was using NJT and Amtrak engines because SEPTA's cars were self-propelling via caternary.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Silverliner II » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:16 am

STrRedWolf wrote:From what I've seen, the MARC II's are being put on LIRR engines, not Amtrak engines. MARC cars and cabs are compatible with Amtrak engines. SEPTA was using NJT and Amtrak engines because SEPTA's cars were self-propelling via caternary.

In the case of SEPTA, it was because we leased all the cars but needed locomotives to pull them. The MU's are out of the equation. The NJT set had its own locomotive simply because it came with the NJT set. The Amtrak locomotives went with the MARC sets because SEPTA needed electric motors to pull those trains.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Amtrak7 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:44 am

613 was cancelled this morning. I wonder if the MARC equipment had something to do with it.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby newkirk » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:11 pm

"613 was cancelled this morning. I wonder if the MARC equipment had something to do with it."

If there are more than one car without A/C and customers are bitterly complaining to LIRR management, then that might be the case.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Bad Luck » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:29 pm

Despite the cancellation this morning, the MARC cars were on 664 as per usual tonight
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby John 61 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:14 pm

Train #664 did run on Tuesday 7-18
www.youtube.com/watch?v=46D1rnnCPuk
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MARC equipment: The final LIRR runs in 2017?

Postby MACTRAXX » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:23 am

Everyone:

Since Labor Day has now passed is this the final day - Friday September 8th - that the MARC
trainset will be operated on PJ trains 613 and 664?

If not when will the MARC equipment make their last LIRR runs for 2017?

When does the MARC equipment summertime lease end and gets sent back to Maryland?

At this point time is of the essence to be able to either ride on or photograph the MARC
train in LIRR service especially if it indeed turns out that today is the last day...

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Re: MARC equipment: The final LIRR runs in 2017?

Postby gregorygrice » Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:05 pm

Your chance has passed. The cars have been sitting at Morris Park since this past weekend ready for return shipment.
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Re: Last MARC equipment runs for 2017...

Postby MACTRAXX » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:48 pm

GG: Thanks for the reply...Was the last runs on Getaway Friday of the Labor Day weekend?

I had two chances to trainspot PM Peak train 664 this past week and was not able to do so both
times - I had thought that this would be the last week of service for the leased MARC equipment.

I am glad I got the chance to ride Train 664 twice during August from Jamaica to Smithtown.
Good to see that there were pictures and videos posted from these services over the Summer...

It will be interesting to see what the 2018 lease brings when the MARC equipment returns
to the LIRR...

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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby newkirk » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:00 am

Has the leasing the MARC coaches, freeing C-3s for overcrowded Montauk trains worked ?

Were the Montauk trains less crowded, more seats etc ?
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby trainspot » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:14 pm

Amtrak 624 just passed Trenton, NJ with some going back to MARC.
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