LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summer)

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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby gamer4616 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:48 am

edflyerssn007 wrote:Does anyone know which trains got the extra cars that these Marc's replaced? Basically which trains are longer?



The cars were brought in to give extra cars to the Montauk trains, especially the holiday weekends in the summer, when ridership spikes. Comparing the holiday car counts for Memorial Day and Independence Day Friday trains.

5/26
2794 6 cars
2796 5 cars
2708 8 cars
9708 4 cars
2798 12 cars
2712 6 cars
2714 8 cars
2716 4 cars
2718 4 cars
2720 4 cars


6/30
2794 5 cars (-1)
2796 5 cars
2708 11 cars (+3)
9708 6 cars (+2)
2798 12 cars
2712 7 cars (+1)
2714 8 cars
2716 6 cars (+2)
2718 5 cars (+1)
2720 5 cars (+1)



2796 is maxed out at 6 cars, due to a meet at ND
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Amtrak7 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:23 pm

Can't give all the credit to MARC, the Independence Day program called for a 2 car Oyster Bay cycle and the Memorial Day program did not

But both 658 and 660 kept their 8 car sets.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:15 pm

There's been reports of the MARC Cars A/C units have failed,the "source" material comes from the Murdock controlled NY Post newspaper. :(
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Silverliner II » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:43 pm

SEPTA never had any problems with them, and SEPTA had all 8 of the cars that came up to the LIRR. As many times as I rode them while they were here, only once did I encounter a warm car, and it was swapped out of the set within a day. It's not like they don't have occasional HVAC issues with the C3's (and they are not much to look at inside, either, IMO) or the MU's, especially the M3's. And perhaps the fact that they had to jury-rig the connections to the locomotives may have a slight unintended effect on things?

Humph. 1950's-vintage equipment, indeed? The MARC cars are at least two years newer than the M3's and have the same seats, albeit in different colors. Give them a bit of time, and they'll do just fine.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby newkirk » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:55 pm

Silverliner II quote: "And perhaps the fact that they had to jury-rig the connections to the locomotives may have a slight unintended effect on things?"

Maybe dutchrailnut can chime in and see if that theory holds water.

Now if the MARC cars are warm or hot, the LIRR would repair them and bill MARC ?

Is that how it works ?
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby STrRedWolf » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:01 am

newkirk wrote:Silverliner II quote: "And perhaps the fact that they had to jury-rig the connections to the locomotives may have a slight unintended effect on things?"

Maybe dutchrailnut can chime in and see if that theory holds water.


From what I've seen, the MARC II's are being put on LIRR engines, not Amtrak engines. MARC cars and cabs are compatible with Amtrak engines. SEPTA was using NJT and Amtrak engines because SEPTA's cars were self-propelling via caternary.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Silverliner II » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:16 am

STrRedWolf wrote:From what I've seen, the MARC II's are being put on LIRR engines, not Amtrak engines. MARC cars and cabs are compatible with Amtrak engines. SEPTA was using NJT and Amtrak engines because SEPTA's cars were self-propelling via caternary.

In the case of SEPTA, it was because we leased all the cars but needed locomotives to pull them. The MU's are out of the equation. The NJT set had its own locomotive simply because it came with the NJT set. The Amtrak locomotives went with the MARC sets because SEPTA needed electric motors to pull those trains.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Amtrak7 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:44 am

613 was cancelled this morning. I wonder if the MARC equipment had something to do with it.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby newkirk » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:11 pm

"613 was cancelled this morning. I wonder if the MARC equipment had something to do with it."

If there are more than one car without A/C and customers are bitterly complaining to LIRR management, then that might be the case.
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby Bad Luck » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:29 pm

Despite the cancellation this morning, the MARC cars were on 664 as per usual tonight
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Re: LIRR seeks to lease 8-21 MARC coaches (for Montauk Summe

Postby John 61 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:14 pm

Train #664 did run on Tuesday 7-18
www.youtube.com/watch?v=46D1rnnCPuk
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