What's being scrapped?

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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby DutchRailnut » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:05 am

the M-3's do not have asbestos .
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby BuddR32 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:50 am

DutchRailnut wrote:the M-3's do not have asbestos .


This was my understanding as well. I was told that is wrong, and that the adhesive used in the flooring is asbestos based mastic.

Whenever they did floor repairs the cars had to go to the 'dirty area' for asbestos handling.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is simply based off the fact that the M1 cars had asbestos flooring, so the M3 cars do too.
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby DutchRailnut » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:11 am

flor tiles are not considered hazmat , as removal is done with either heat or scrapper or both.
yes it does become a hazmat if you grind or sand the matter and it gets airborne.

The locomotives might be higher concern especially if they have older steam train lines or asbestos wrap on hot lines from engine.

The M-1's has lots of asbestos in propulsion group the flame arrestors on contactors and some asbestos wiring near grid resistors.
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby DogBert » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:14 pm

The first Bogie cars are being dragged off the cutoff this week, down into the Yard A area, where I presume they'll be scrapped on sight or loaded onto trucks to be hauled away.
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby AlKaLI » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:30 am

Confirmed. From my LIRR train this morning, I could not see any of the blue bogies on the Cutoff. They were there last week.
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby Teutobergerwald » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:46 am

Did the LIRR reconnect the track to pull those away on the Montauk Cut-Off ? Is the cut of these bogies on the LIPA spur east of Hicksville between Old Country Rd. and New South Rd. still there??? Thanks.
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby Ðauntless » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:29 pm

Absolute shame a set of bogies were not preserved. Pioneering Intermodal concept, thrown aside..
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby R36 Combine Coach » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:53 pm

Good riddance. Rusting there since the early 90s. If you see the teen drama film 'Cruel Intentions' (1999), they're visible in the opening credits as the main character drives on the 495 Viaduct into the Midtown Tunnel.
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby tahawus84 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:54 pm

The ones in hicksville are still there. Currently they are blocked in by a cut of gondolas
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby freightguy » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:16 pm

Dauntless,

LIRR's pioneer intermodal concept was in 1885(first piggyback). A few LIRR crews mentioned those cars were prone to derailments. Once a piggyback load of US Mail was left NY Crossharbor interchange and was torched by the locals. Needless to say the service never really got off the ground. Pun intended!
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby DogBert » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:58 am

I don't think they've removed them all - just those closest to the mainline. It's going to take 2-3 weeks to drag them all down into the yard. I watched them pull two off the other day: they tug it down using a lift, then slightly lift and re-rail the cars at the broken switch, and drag it (screeching all the way) under Thomson avenue overpass. Once under the overpass they take it off the track are either trucking them away or cutting them up on the spot. I'll see if I can get a better look later.

Even though they were a total failure, that historic aspect back to the 1880s would have made for a good artifact to preserve, telling LI's history & struggles with freight service.
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby jayrmli » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:53 am

LIRR's pioneer intermodal concept was in 1885(first piggyback). A few LIRR crews mentioned those cars were prone to derailments. Once a piggyback load of US Mail was left NY Crossharbor interchange and was torched by the locals. Needless to say the service never really got off the ground. Pun intended!


Oh yes I remember one of the old LIRR freight engineers telling me they bled one of the cars off to move in the yard by pushing it. Two people pushed and even doing that it derailed. Of course, depending on what track it was on in Yard A at the time the condition of the track may have contributed to it!

If you want to see the true legacy of the LIRR bogies, check out NYA crews cleaning out switches after a snowstorm. Many of the hoses were cut off of these cars and modified to blow compressed air at the switches.
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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby scopelliti » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:36 pm

How about a photo of these cars? I'm not sure what a bogie looks like.

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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby Ðauntless » Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:06 pm

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Re: What's being scrapped?

Postby gregorygrice » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:04 pm

DogBert wrote:I don't think they've removed them all - just those closest to the mainline. It's going to take 2-3 weeks to drag them all down into the yard. I watched them pull two off the other day: they tug it down using a lift, then slightly lift and re-rail the cars at the broken switch, and drag it (screeching all the way) under Thomson avenue overpass. Once under the overpass they take it off the track are either trucking them away or cutting them up on the spot. I'll see if I can get a better look later.

Even though they were a total failure, that historic aspect back to the 1880s would have made for a good artifact to preserve, telling LI's history & struggles with freight service.


Once under the over pass they lift them off the rails to the ground, cut them in 4 pieces and load them into a scrap container to be trucked off.
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