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Re: Atlantic Terminal Brooklyn Platform- Won't platform

Postby inthebag » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:41 pm

The east door of the 8th car probably has a gap that is larger than whatever they deem safe.
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Re: Atlantic Terminal Brooklyn Platform- Won't platform

Postby SwingMan » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:12 pm

In a day and age where people are becoming less responsible to their own personal awareness, the safe thing would be to keep the rules as they are. When people fall in said gap, a greater portion than not will not take responsibility for their own actions.
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Re: Atlantic Terminal Brooklyn Platform- Won't platform

Postby onorclose7 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:43 am

The gap on the eastern most car has a big gap on track one. The curve is the opposite way on track two therefore there is no gap. If you are in such a hurry to depart the train, why don't you get on in the front?
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Re: Atlantic Terminal Brooklyn Platform- Won't platform

Postby RailTrek » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:47 pm

onorclose7 wrote:The gap on the eastern most car has a big gap on track one. The curve is the opposite way on track two therefore there is no gap. If you are in such a hurry to depart the train, why don't you get on in the front?

"Crowding" up front is a reason why so many got hurt when the train hit the bumper at Atlantic Terminal a couple of months ago. I have a number of thoughts on this.

First - Lets not all forget that the ONLY REASON why the gap issue became one, is because an under-age, drunk young woman, who was the daughter of a U.S. representative from Minnesota fell in between the gap and the platform. Despite being told by many screaming people to stay down, she got up and was unfortunately killed by the train.

Second. Atlantic Terminal would be a prime candidate for gap filling moving platforms. Atlantic Terminal is climate controlled, which is an essential part to employing this technology.

Third - Not opening all of the doors does create a potentially dangerous situation, such as with the bumper hit, where panicked riders, cannot get off the train, causing them to use emergency exits, which cause more damage.

Fourth. Time - As we all who MUST commute to and from work know, time is of the essence, and even a one minute delay adds up over time. When you ride the train 260 days a year, those minutes mean something.
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Re: Atlantic Terminal Brooklyn Platform- Won't platform

Postby John_Perkowski » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:08 am

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Re: Atlantic Terminal Brooklyn Platform- Won't platform

Postby onorclose7 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:38 am

Dining car waiter? I'm a lot more qualified than that.
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Height of VD portals and Atlantic Av tunnel

Postby NIMBYkiller » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:30 pm

I tried to find it in previous threads about the Atlantic Branch but no luck. I'm working on a personal fantasy idea and was curious, at the current eastern portal for VD yard, what is the height of the tunnel? Long story short, I'm trying to figure out if at a 2 percent grade there would be enough distance to dive from the existing eastern portal to the pass below the trackway of the new western portal. The distance is about 1400 ft, so that allows a 28 ft dive if I did my math right. From what I can see, the western portal sits lower than the eastern one as well. Does anyone know the ground level of both portals?
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Re: Atlantic Avenue Brooklyn Terminal

Postby Jeff Smith » Fri May 18, 2018 7:38 am

New yard connection opening:

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LIRR: New path to Atlantic Terminal may ease commuter delays
Beginning Wednesday, LIRR trains will use a west portal to directly access the Vanderbilt Yard rail storage site in Brooklyn.

A direct new pathway for Long Island Rail Road trains traveling from Atlantic Terminal to an adjacent rail yard will reduce delays for tens of thousands of Brooklyn commuters, LIRR officials said Wednesday.

The completion of what’s being called the “West Portal” is the latest milestone in the privately funded, half-billion-dollar transformation of the LIRR’s Vanderbilt Yard in the shadow of the Barclays Center in Downtown Brooklyn.

For more than a century, routing a train from Atlantic Terminal into the yard, where it would be cleaned and serviced, required a complicated and time-consuming set of movements. Trains would have to travel east from the station about three-quarters of a mile, and then back west again through the only portal leading to the adjacent outdoor rail yard.
The new access point is among more than $500 million in upgrades promised to the LIRR by private builder Greenland Forest City Partners as a condition of an agreement to allow the Barclays Center to be built partially on top of the original Vanderbilt Yard.

In addition to relocating the yard’s storage tracks, Greenland Forest City Partners is installing new signal and switches, new sewage connections for servicing train bathrooms, a new electrical substation and an employee facility. The improvements are expected to be completed next year.
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Re: Atlantic Avenue Brooklyn Terminal

Postby rr503 » Sat May 19, 2018 10:31 am

On a different note, looks like they're going forward with their Freedom Ticket program -- $60 for a combined LIRR/NYCT weekly ticket, good for travel between SE Queens Stations on the Atlantic and Montauk Branches and Atlantic Terminal.

See page 28 here: ... inance.pdf
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Re: Atlantic Avenue Brooklyn Terminal

Postby MACTRAXX » Sat May 19, 2018 11:58 pm

RR and Everyone:

The new approved pilot program will be titled "Atlantic Terminal Ticket Field Study".

The implementation will be for a six to twelve month period beginning as early as June 2018.

There will be a $5 one way fare and a $60 weekly pass (LIRR ticket/7 day unlimited Metrocard)
representing the two experimental fare options sold during this test program.

The stations covered under this test will be:
Atlantic Terminal-Brooklyn
Nostrand Avenue
East New York
Queens Village
Locust Manor

What is interesting here is that the $5 fare will be in effect at all times and be valid only on the day
of purchase similar to the current weekend City Ticket fare. These tickets are only valid between
any two of the nine stations covered during the test program.

These $5 tickets will only be available pre purchased from a ticket office or TVM and again similar
to the City Ticket the full on board one way penalty charge fares will be the LIRR's highest:
Zone 1-1 is $15 peak and $12 off peak; Zone 1-3 is $16 peak and $14 off peak.

The Weekly Pass will include a LIRR weekly ticket that will be valid Saturday thru Friday along
with a 7 day unlimited Metrocard - which will be valid for 7 days from its first use as normal.
What makes this interesting is that the unlimited Metrocard will not have to be used directly
along with the LIRR part and will be valid for any 7 day period until the card portion expires.

Expect more details to be released about this program during the coming weeks...MACTRAXX
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