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LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby deadhead350 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:47 pm

Kind of a silly question but i couldnt really find a straight answer anywhere - but aside from the old blue and yellow/dark blue cargo/work trains does the LIRR still use diesel engines for passenger trains with the exception of when a disabled train needs to be "towed" ?
Particularly the standard silver colored passenger trains - are they diesel and the engines are just smaller/ quieter or am i just not noticing something?
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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby deadhead350 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:42 am

Ok so more or less diesels only for the double level trains as far as passenger service goes with the exception of disabled trains?
I suspected the doubles seem a bit louder - wasnt sure if it was just due to the bigger size...
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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby bingdude » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:58 am

LIRR is not electrified east of Huntington on the Port Jeff line, east of Babylon on the Montauk line and east of Ronkonkoma on the main line. Not sure where the Port Washington electrification ends but I believe it does also. The Diesels are for service to these points. And as the Wikipedia article probably states, some of the diesels were ordered as Dual Mode so they can run as electric locomotives into Penn Station (and soon to Grand Central). A few work diesels exist. Freight service is not operated by the LIRR.
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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby Crabman1130 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:05 pm

bingdude wrote: Not sure where the Port Washington electrification ends but I believe it does also. .

Port Washington is electrified it's entire route.
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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby nyandw » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:56 pm

Electrification:
L. I. City to Winfield Jct.: 6/23/1910
Winfield Jct. to Whitestone Jct. and Whitestone Landing: 10/22/1912
Whitestone Jct. to Port Washington: 10/21/1913
Freight sidings electrified: 1927-28
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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby deadhead350 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:29 am

Im nearby the main line(babylon branch to be specific i think?) and most if not all of it is elevated and i would imagine its all electrified so i guess there may be some weight restrictions due to the elevated tracks thats why i seldom see much diesels but when the cargo trains pulling dumpsters, fuel tanks,etc pass by you definitely can tell the difference :wink:
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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby NaugyRR » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:28 pm

bingdude wrote:LIRR is not electrified east of Huntington on the Port Jeff line, east of Babylon on the Montauk line and east of Ronkonkoma on the main line. Not sure where the Port Washington electrification ends but I believe it does also. The Diesels are for service to these points. And as the Wikipedia article probably states, some of the diesels were ordered as Dual Mode so they can run as electric locomotives into Penn Station (and soon to Grand Central). A few work diesels exist. Freight service is not operated by the LIRR.


I don't think the DM's can fit under the river going to GCT, I'm fairly certain that'll be strictly an MU service
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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby geico » Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:02 pm

63rd street tunnel for LIRR was designed for M1 size equipment.

So no a DM or C3 will not fit (at least not without chopping the roof off)
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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby BuddR32 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:49 am

deadhead350 wrote:Im nearby the main line(babylon branch to be specific i think?) and most if not all of it is elevated and i would imagine its all electrified so i guess there may be some weight restrictions due to the elevated tracks thats why i seldom see much diesels but when the cargo trains pulling dumpsters, fuel tanks,etc pass by you definitely can tell the difference :wink:
Thanks all for the input


The Babylon (Montauk) Branch is entirely elevated/grade separated and electrified to Babylon Station. The passenger diesel fleet runs on it several times a day, but not as much as the M3/M7. Its not because of weight, but service. Most trains to/from east of Babylon will use the Central Branch (diesel only) to the mainline and bypass the heavy local traffic on the Babylon line.

I don't recall ever seeing freight on the Babylon branch (not saying it doesn't happen)
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Re: LIRR Passenger Diesels?

Postby nyandw » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:07 pm

You're referring to the Montauk Branch?
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