More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 2017

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More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 2017

Postby NH2060 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:28 pm

The expanded service would consist of 2 morning trains and one afternoon train, giving the Montauk Branch east of Speonk more of a proper "commuter rail" schedule:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/tran ... 1.11880470
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:40 pm

If it's on Newsday,figure on a paywall!! :(
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby SwingMan » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:33 pm

The end of Manual Block "Dark Territory" for the Montauk Branch, leaving east of KO on the Main Line as on of the last stretches in the country. Although it lost a bit of the charm once operations were moved the Babylon from PD in May 2006 (10 years ago), it is still something that makes to LIRR unique (antiquated to most, but that comes with most charming things).
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby workextra » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:55 pm

Best part of S-251 out to Montauk is East of Speonk when the lights go out the trains still run on time.
A little trade off for reliability or pretty signals? When all is working though the signals are fine. Problem is when the computers take a poopie.
Sure will be the end of an era.
Talk has it that there I'll be a MAS increase to LD to 60/65 mph and the "20" through town account the close proximity of crossings and neighbors to the line.
But 261 may also go out to Greenport as one 20 or so mile long block from LD-GY.

Is there any truth to that?
But factually I hate to break the bad news, but the LIRR can run much higher levels of service in S-251 with its versitility through the timetable/train order operation.


Essentially once the place goes all 261 timetable schedules will no longer necessarily be a trains "authority" to occupy a main track . The road essentially go to another rule book.
Maybe red light green light O-T-P
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby Backshophoss » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:46 am

There's a plan to signal the eastern end of the Montauk Branch,likely controlled at Babylon,if not at JSCC.
That has been discussed in another thread in the LIRR forum,the FEDS hate MBS,and the PTC requirement
forced the "upgade"

As to KO to GY,the LIRR might ask for a waiver,the traffic level won't pay off the $$$ needed to signal that route.
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby NH2060 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:39 pm

Progress being made on more AM and PM "reverse peak" Speonk-Montauk trains:
Thiele (I-Sag Harbor) said that at a Jan. 26 meeting with officials from the Long Island Rail Road and East End communities, the parties began discussions to reinstitute the South Fork Commuter Connection, a line that would run locally between Speonk and Montauk four times a day between 6:30 a.m. and 9 a.m. and 3 p.m. and 6:30 p.m.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/tran ... 1.13037786

More from 27east.com:
In the long term, East End officials are also pushing for a capital plan to provide train service every half hour eastbound during the morning commute and westbound during the afternoon commute. Due to a current lack of infrastructure, however, a second track from Sayville to Montauk, or perhaps additional sidings, would be required to provide the frequent service. State legislators are expected to seek funding for a study to develop the long-term capital plan during the 2017 state budget process.

As part of discussion with LIRR, North Fork travelers may also see an increase in the number of trains going in and out of Greenport, which could begin by the end of 2017, according to the release from the state. LIRR officials could not immediately be reached for comment.

http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/ ... R-Services


Surprising that there isn't a push for a couple more AM westbound/PM eastbound trains unless the existing schedule adequately meets those needs.
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby Backshophoss » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:57 pm

If IP implodes into bankruptcy,it would be a good idea to buy back the C-1's to expand the diesel coach fleet,that's already
streached real thin right now. it may not be much ,but can help.
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby NIMBYkiller » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:04 pm

I thought the C1s were incompatible with the current equipment (C3s and the DE/DMs).
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:03 pm

The "M-1" type couplers have been replaced with regular couplers by IP,would need to install the proper plug to fit LIRR's
combo MU/Comm setup,change the HEP cabling to be compatable with LIRR's HEP feed
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby rr503 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:41 pm

Where does the LIRR think this equipment will come from?
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:57 pm

don't read into this *, its not LIRR idea, and no plan on this is present, its a foamer idea with no substance.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby rr503 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:56 pm

That makes a lot more sense.

It's a shame though. East Enders could use more service...
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Re: More *Year Round* Hamptons Service Could Be Coming In 20

Postby MACTRAXX » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:02 am

Everyone:

There were only 10 C1 cars built - and they are in different locations in service by their current
owners - this is nowhere near significant enough to address any C3 car shortage problem.

Assemblyman Thiele has the right idea about increasing service on the East End but he needs to
be more aware of the limitations of the C3 fleet and the problems that presents to the LIRR...

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