Rockaway Beach Line Reactivation One-Seat Ride to JFK

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Re: Rockaway Beach Branch - Historical Operations

Postby Liquidcamphor » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:36 am

If the LI was to reinstate service on that branch, would they have to repurchase it from the TA? Or would they lease it?
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Re: Rockaway Beach Line Reactivation One-Seat Ride to JFK

Postby workextra » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:42 pm

LC, that’s an interesting facet it self.
I do recall reading the entire line from the Rockaways to White Pot was sold to the city at that time just before the LIRR was owned by the state.
Now being owned by the state and operates by the same entity responsible for operating NYCT, I do wonder if they would have to Deed the line back to LIRR or just rebuild it let LIRR run on it.

Either way, I support LIRR re claiming this line. Fact is, regardless of the politics, and the trail lovers.
The rockaways have changed since they petitioned for NYCT to run the line in the 60s
Lirr could provide better and faster service even with PTC direct into both Brooklyn and 2 New York terminals.
The loop must be also be replaced making (A) Mott Avenue. Into (LIRR) Far Rockaway

This gives like a new badly needed motor yard in Rockaway Park, and provides for operational versatility that seems to be a long lost word in LIRR operations.

Also the LIRR Rockaway Beach Beach traverses a north south section of Queens that’s starved without any rail transportation
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Could still be made, and most importantly, once the neighborhood sees the pros out weigh the cons they will slowly silence themselves over the tree hugging.
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Re: Rockaway Beach Line Reactivation One-Seat Ride to JFK

Postby Jeff Smith » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:09 pm

LC, I couldn't find the full link, but I'm sure it's back in the thread somewhere. At one point, RPA proposed reactivating the line rather than turning it into a Queens "High Line" linear park/rail trail. It was to run from the beginning of the abandoned section, across to the Hell Gate bridge, then across the old Morris freight connection to Mott Haven and Yankee stadium. Way too ambitious. However, it should most definitely be reactivated for LIRR service. Not sure if the active NYCT portion should be included, or how long that conversion would take, or what obstacles there are to it. Both are DC third rail, over running, not sure if there's a voltage difference. Is there sufficient yard space out on Rockaway? Signals would definitely have to change. ... ide-to-jfk
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