M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby PlaneLoverA380 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:04 pm

mwichten wrote:Facebook is abuzz today about a 14 car test train, and much disbelief as you can imagine.

https://youtu.be/WSpzEklRd7c


Now that’s rare! Why 14 cars though? Is this a one off? I may or may not go to Pinelawn this weekend or next week on a weekday.
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby mwichten » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:32 pm

I’m sure they weren’t dragging the extra 2 cars around by accident :wink:
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby Fan Railer » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:03 pm

14-car M9 test train on the Babylon Branch today. Only slightly bummed I didn't catch it at New York Penn since it came in and turned around on Track 11.
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby Head-end View » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:18 pm

I heard the crew of that train talking to Divide tower last night. Sounded like Divide was temporarily putting them into station track-1 at Hicksville Station and there was a question about whether all 14 cars would fit on that platform or on that track.
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby daybeers » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:16 pm

They look great!
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby Head-end View » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:16 pm

I'm still curious why the placement of the headlights and marker lights on the M9's is the reverse of the M7's. Wonder if the LIRR spec'd them that way, (and if so, why?) or if the manufacturer just happened to build it like that.

With the marker lights closer together on the M9's I could see where an engineer following an M9 train at night might think the train ahead is further away than it actually is. Could that cause a problem where trains sometimes follow each other closely at restricted speed?
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby DutchRailnut » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:36 am

with atc and ptc ??? lets hope not .
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby PlaneLoverA380 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:50 am

Were the M9s delivered with PTC already installed?
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby Patch Hog » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:18 pm

PlaneLoverA380 wrote:Were the M9s delivered with PTC already installed?


No. Siemens and Bombardier were (and still are) working on it.
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby DutchRailnut » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:02 am

hmm since cars are Kawasaki why those two manufacturers?
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby MattAmity90 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:14 pm

When it comes to 14 car consists, I snapped this photo at Jamaica when I was in Long Island for a visit back on Friday. I also saw the M9 testing at Jamaica, and sorry if it is sideways. It was taken using my iPhone.

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14 MU sign at Jamaica (photo courtesy of Matthew Kobel 4/12/2019)
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby Absolute-Limited Advance-Approach » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:54 pm

Note carefully that the sign actually says "14 Unit". This is slightly different to 14 MU, this is your stopping point if you have a 12 Coach DE/DM train since it will be 12, 85ft Coaches and 2 75ft DM for a total of 12 units.
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby Patch Hog » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:09 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:hmm since cars are Kawasaki why those two manufacturers?

Siemens and Bombardier have the PTC contract for all of the rolling stock.
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby PlaneLoverA380 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:20 am

MattAmity90 wrote:When it comes to 14 car consists, I snapped this photo at Jamaica when I was in Long Island for a visit back on Friday. I also saw the M9 testing at Jamaica, and sorry if it is sideways. It was taken using my iPhone.


Yes, while leaving Jamaica eastbound, I did see a sign that read “14 UNIT” and below it read “#2798”. And 2798 does have 12 coaches and 2 DM units. (Technically 14 cars)
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:44 pm

That would be for the CannonBall consist,that maxes out at 12 coaches.
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