MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdale

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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby newkirk » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:07 pm

Thanks MACTRAXX for the information of the photos I posted.

On that first photo, isn't GP 38-2 #262 now part of the NYAR fleet ?
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Teutobergerwald » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:04 pm

Is the 617 the Alco FA in the picture? I seem to recall it was the only FA that retained those style number boards.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby AlKaLI » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:59 pm

When the double track was installed near Farmingdale, the double ended siding east of Route 110 (New Highway Area) had the western turnout removed.
NYA freights heading east now have to back in to serve Coastal Distribution (C&D) and Posillico Materials (Aggregates).

Are there plans to restore the turnout and make the siding double-ended again?
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby twropr » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:46 pm

My 2006 ETT shows interlockings Farm 1 and Farm 2. Does the new track (?Track 2) begin at Farm 1 or 2?
Just out of curiosity why would the same name be used with a "1" or "2" suffix?
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby workextra » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:49 pm

Farm 2 is now gone and Farm 1 is “Farm” a lot of changes on the mainline.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:08 am

workextra wrote:Farm 2 is now gone and Farm 1 is “Farm” a lot of changes on the mainline.


What about the dwarf signal that was labeled FARM3? I know the configuration is just FARM1 is now FARM with your traditional crossovers (Main 1 to Main 2 and Main 2 to Main 1) and there are switches for the linear siding for trains that terminate and originate at Farmingdale. Although thanks to the project, many of the trains that terminated at Farmingdale now go all the way out to Ronkonkoma for the purpose of reverse off-peak.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MACTRAXX » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:47 pm

MACTRAXX wrote:
What I am interested in particular is which platform westbound trains will be serving Central Islip.
As some know CI is the only 1987 station building that is on the south side-Platform B. With the
timetable beginning in September westbound trains may continue to serve Platform B by using the
south track out of Ronkonkoma and then crossing over at the new CI interlocking over to the north
track. All eastbound trains would serve the north side Platform A and then continue to KO on that
track. If all westbound trains were to use the "proper" north track at CI riders would have to use
either the overhead bridge or the Lowell Avenue crossing sidewalks at the east end to cross over.
This could be addressed by placing added TVMs and/or a new waiting room on the north side. I am
looking forward to see what the CI platform assignments are under the new September schedule...

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Everyone: Back on August 15, 2018 (bottom of Page 32) I posted about a potential problem with
westbound trains at Central Islip using Platform A - the north platform. From News 12 LI on 2/5:
http://longisland.news12.com/story/3991 ... islip-lirr

I predicted correctly that there would be problems at Central Islip if westbound trains served
Platform A. One incorrect statement in the News 12 report is that ALL trains served Platform B.
Platform A had limited service with its passing siding status noted in the Ronkonkoma Branch TT.
MTA Police have been ticketing riders ducking under the Lowell Avenue crossing gate at the east
end of the platforms crossing over in front of arriving westbound trains.

It will be interesting to see the LIRR's response to the Central Islip problems...MACTRAXX
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby geico » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:21 am

How about people just get there earlier.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:13 am

Not only arrive earlier, but the station has a pedestrian overpass! Of course people are going to go under the gates. It's called idiocy, Darwinism, people failing to use common sense, and not using the organ God gave you three feet above your Gluteus Maximus!

One thing though that the LIRR can do is put in a pedestrian underpass near the station building like at most Hempstead Branch stations.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MACTRAXX » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:02 pm

geico: That was the response of the LIRR spokesman interviewed for the News 12 LI story.

MA90:

I believe that Central Islip riders ducking the gate IN FRONT of arriving trains are the people being
ticketed. The gates go up quickly westbound once the last east car clears the crossing circuit.
Train crews are likely more vigilant knowing that riders are crossing over between platforms.

A pedestrian underpass will be a totally unnecessary expense at Central Islip - and may create its
own problems as another place undesirables can loiter. At Bay Shore - which once had a underpass
outside the station building - there were problems that were serious enough that the LIRR sealed
up and filled in the underpass in favor of a replacement pedestrian overpass west of the building.

A partial solution to this problem would be to move at least one full-service TVM to Platform A in
one of the shelters - which have been in use since the CI station was opened. Enclosing shelters
from the elements - which is a good idea - can again create problems with loitering as has been
the case from time to time with the station building - which has basic amenities (heat, restroom)
for riders. The MTA Police are located just 1/2 mile west on Suffolk Avenue and do patrol the CI
Station on a regular basis.

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