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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:10 am

The crossings that should be 4 quadrant gated:

-Wicks Road.
-Executive Drive.
-Commack Road.
-Carll's Path.
-Straight Path (ESPECIALLY!)

There is also time to further enhance other crossings that have had upgrades:

-Ocean Avenue.
-Lowell Avenue.
-Carleton Avenue.
-Brentwood Road.
-East Great Neck Road.
-Wellwood Avenue.
-Stewart Avenue.
-South Oyster Bay Road.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby milepost39 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:39 am

Electric road work signs are up in Deer Park at LI Ave, saying Carl's Path closed on 10/21-10/23 for road work. As they're placed on both sides of the tracks, I'm assuming this is referring to the work to rip out and replace the old siding track at the grade crossing?

It's going to be real interesting when they get to do this at Commack Rd. I'll plan on not venturing out around town that weekend.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Amtrak7 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:48 am

milepost39 wrote:Electric road work signs are up in Deer Park at LI Ave, saying Carl's Path closed on 10/21-10/23 for road work. As they're placed on both sides of the tracks, I'm assuming this is referring to the work to rip out and replace the old siding track at the grade crossing?

It's going to be real interesting when they get to do this at Commack Rd. I'll plan on not venturing out around town that weekend.


There must be no track outage involved, as that's Dual Mode weekend.

Line shutdown east of Farmingdale the weekend of 10/28-29, likely the last time this year.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby tj48 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:07 am

Electrical construction crew beginning to string wires on the new poles that were erected on the south side of the new ROW on the grade between Wyandanch and the Deer Park Ave. overpass.
Another construction crew working just east of the Carll's Path crossing. Portable roadway signs flashing a message that the road will be closed this weekend. Decent amount of construction equipment (front end loader, backhoe, pavement roller and one of these https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q ... 5405009495 ) at the site. Noticed a switch has been cut into the existing ROW just east of the crossing facing east toward the new ROW and the section of track with wooden ties set off the the south side of the new ROW.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:46 pm

New power lines? What about the ones that were erected on the North side of the ROW when the branch was electrified? The ones that have one perpendicular plank with two wire insulators.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby milepost39 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:41 am

Carlls Path Xing work has been completed. The new second track is in with concrete ties.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:21 pm

Uber car got hit at Broadway in Bethpage. Person and passengers were able to get out before the train was hit, unlike the idiots that drive around the gates, his car stalled before the gates went down and unfortunately the car couldn't get fired back up. M3 car 9809 bound for Penn Station using Track 2 hit the Honda Accord and pushed it to about halfway between Broadway and Stewart Avenue. Service was suspended for 60-90 minutes.

By the way, with Carll's Path officially being a two track crossing, does anyone know when the next weekend outage will be for Ronkonkoma Branch work?
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Amtrak7 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:16 pm

MattAmity90 wrote:By the way, with Carll's Path officially being a two track crossing, does anyone know when the next weekend outage will be for Ronkonkoma Branch work?


This weekend, and I'm pretty sure the one after that won't be until 2018.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:28 am

I saw a switch in between Carll's Path and Commack Road, was that already there, or is it part of an extension of JS Interlocking?

I came back from mta.info and you are correct the weekend of October 28-29 is a Ronkonkoma Branch work outage. No NTC machine, this is solely for switch installation work. My guess is completing the new interlocking West of the Peter's Boulevard crossing, and I'm not sure if they finished the crossover switch in between Pond Road and Ocean Avenue in Ronkonkoma. Then again, they didn't get the full insight, so I'm sure they will be doing work that won't have an effect on service during weekdays like what they are doing in Wyandanch, at the old Deer Park Station, Pinelawn, the second track where it goes through Connetquot State Park, and in between Central Islip and Brentwood with grading and ballast dumping.

By the way, I enjoyed my 27th birthday yesterday and I'm proud to be the youth and enthusiasm in the forum keeping up to tabs on history, and upcoming projects that have made me see unbelievable transitions and changes to the railroad I grew up with as a child, being a symbol of my childhood, and finding out that my visions actually existed before my time! To think I was only 7 and in an arm cast recovering from a broken arm caused by falling off a table when Herrick's Road was eliminated, and finishing up my senior year of high school when Roslyn Road was eliminated when I was 16-17. Solari signs, rehabilitated stations, the retirement of the M1, the birth of the M7 and soon M9, and everything since 1990 to now.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Head-end View » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:52 pm

Matt, enjoy your youthful years while you have them. You have so much to look forward to in the railroad world alone. The completion of East Side Access. Double track to Ronkonkoma. Third track Mineola-to-Hicksville. And in your lifetime you'll see the next generation of EMU cars that will replace the M-7's maybe twenty years from now.

Being a retiree, I will likely not see all of that, but I got to ride the front window of the M-1/3's when they were still new. Now I'm just hoping to live long enough to ride the East Side Access! LOL Have fun! :wink:
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:32 am

Head-end View wrote:Matt, enjoy your youthful years while you have them. You have so much to look forward to in the railroad world alone. The completion of East Side Access. Double track to Ronkonkoma. Third track Mineola-to-Hicksville. And in your lifetime you'll see the next generation of EMU cars that will replace the M-7's maybe twenty years from now.

Being a retiree, I will likely not see all of that, but I got to ride the front window of the M-1/3's when they were still new. Now I'm just hoping to live long enough to ride the East Side Access! LOL Have fun! :wink:


I will, and in those 27 years I have been riding on the LIRR for 25. I've been in the old ping-pong/MP75 cars when they were converted to diesel service, M1's, M3's, M7's, C1's, C3's, I forget the engines they used in the 1990's prior to DC-30's and the DM-30's going into service.

I will however miss quite a bit of the symbols I've seen and smelled. The M3 cars (also the M1's) had that wonderful new car smell from the leather upholstery, I'm noticing that the mushroom lights are vanishing and being converted to salon dryer or those solar-powered black lights that have popped up at Merrick and stations along the Long Beach and Far Rockaway branches, and unfortunately I already miss the wire insulators on the power poles that were made out of metal/porcelain and looked like UFO's. Example being the bottom four wires on the Babylon Branch (which I grew up along). The two photos show otherwise, take a look at the four bottom wires on the low pier.

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Massapequa 1980

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Massapequa 2015
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby milepost39 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:40 am

Looks like there will be a closing of Commack Rd at the Xing this weekend for track work. I saw the detour signs were up today on Carls Straight Path, advising that this is the way for the detour. (LI AVE, CSP, Grand Blvd to Commack Rd)
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby tj48 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:19 am

milepost39 wrote:Looks like there will be a closing of Commack Rd at the Xing this weekend for track work. I saw the detour signs were up today on Carls Straight Path, advising that this is the way for the detour. (LI AVE, CSP, Grand Blvd to Commack Rd)


That's going to a real traffic mess.

My travels this morning took me past Wyandanch station this morning. Work has begun on the new roadbed from the pedestrian overpass east of the station to the Straight Path crossing.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:38 am

Saw pictures of what they did this past weekend:

-Grooming the ballast in between the two running rails of the new track in between Carleton Avenue and Peters Blvd.
-Work has started at JS Interlocking, where a few vehicles were.
-Rest of the new CI Interlocking has taken shape with the crossovers visible.
-New power poles have been erected to the South of the ROW West of Deer Park at the JS switch.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby milepost39 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:43 pm

What are the plans for the Wyandanch and Pinelawn stations?
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