MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdale

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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby tj48 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:03 am

Teutobergerwald wrote:The now-unused spur for the propane company in Wyandanch going to be kept in case of future need, or has it been removed as part of the double-tracking project?

The rear buildings are being torn down. The front building and the spur at least to the gate still exist. Whether the spur is still attached to the ROW I don't know.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby tj48 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:39 am

New Track Construction machine working right now between Deer Park station and Commack Road crossing. Pretty fascinating piece of machinery.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:03 pm

So it looks like the NTC right now is going to be used to lay the track in between Deer Park and Wyandanch especially when it goes over Deer Park Avenue.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:55 pm

New photos were taken by good ole' Edward Hand after some snow was cleared in the project areas. Dwarf signals have been installed right next to the Peter's Blvd. crossing, a surprise at Pinelawn because where the new platform is now is covered by a white tarp, and the NTC is still sitting East of Commack Road.
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Dwarf signals at Peter's Blvd looking East.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Head-end View » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:06 pm

Why would they put dwarf signals there instead of full-size ones?
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:17 pm

Head-end View wrote:Why would they put dwarf signals there instead of full-size ones?


I can think of two possible reasons:

1.) Dwarfs are usually put in as temporary signals so that they can put up signal gantries, and have the new interlocking in service. They did that when they modernized the interlockings at Amityville and Wantagh.
2.) Maybe there isn't room for gantries, I mean the interlocking begins just West of Peters Blvd.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby SwingMan » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:43 am

Neither, look to Metro North for the answer.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Head-end View » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:51 pm

That type of signal pictured is standard at interlockings on Metro-north but not on LIRR. I think the previous poster's answers are correct. Maybe temporary signals. I don't really see a space limitation there.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:54 pm

Head-end View wrote:That type of signal pictured is standard at interlockings on Metro-north but not on LIRR. I think the previous poster's answers are correct. Maybe temporary signals. I don't really see a space limitation there.


Edward posted more photos from today because I just realized that it was the weekend, and there is no service on the Ronkonkoma Branch for all weekends in January.

1.) A ton of snow clearing in Wyandanch with the new station building under construction.
2.) New signal huts being installed at grade crossings in Brentwood and Deer Park.
3.) Work on the PC Richards siding/spur. Not sure what they are going to do.
4.) Pinelawn still has a question mark.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Herring » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:46 pm

Wow, I'm impressed. Governor Cuomo announces 2nd track to be completed 16 months ahead of schedule
The Governor also announced 24 critical projects totaling $1 billion will be completed this year, as part of the complete transformation of the LIRR.

Governor Andrew M. Cuomo today announced the Long Island Rail Road Double Track has reached a major milestone and the final five miles of rail being laid this month. The project utilizes Design-Build construction and a specialized New Track Construction machine that lays rail more than 10 times faster than the MTA has ever done before, saving more than $7 million in construction costs and allowing for an expected project completion of August 2018 - 16 months ahead of schedule. Once complete, the Double Track, extending from Farmingdale to Ronkonkoma, will dramatically reduce delays on the LIRR and enable more off-peak service in both directions by adding nearly 13 miles of parallel track.


2018 LIRR Project Completion List
Double Track Project
72 New M9 Commuter Rail Cars in Service
Hicksville Station Rehabilitation and New Platforms
Systemwide Post-Sandy Substation Restoration on Long Beach Branch (3 substations: Oceanside, Oil City, Long Beach)
Flushing Main Street Station New ADA Elevators and Station Improvements
Wantagh Station Platform Replacement
Buckram Road Bridge Replacement
Post Avenue Bridge Replacement
Port Washington substation Replacement
New Wyandanch Station
Pinelawn Station New Platforms
Stewart Manor Station Modernization and New Platforms
Port Jefferson Station Modernization and Platform Upgrades
East Hampton Station Modernization
Ronkonkoma Station Upgrades and Amenities
Merrick Station Modernization and Platform Upgrades
Brentwood Station Modernization
Deer Park Station Modernization and Platform Upgrades
Farmingdale Station Modernization
Bellmore Station Modernization
Syosset Station Modernization
Stony Brook Station Modernization
Valley Stream Station Upgrades and Amenities
Baldwin Station Modernization

LIRR Projects Starting in 2018
An additional 21 LIRR projects will break ground this year, including:
3rd Track
Jamaica Terminal
Rockville Centre Viaduct
Lynbrook Viaduct
Meadowbrook Substation
Mid Suffolk Yard
Morris Park Locomotive Shop
Great Neck Station
Westbury Station
Carle Place Station
Mineola Station
Merillon Avenue Station
New Hyde Park Station
Laurelton Station
Locust Manor Station
Nostrand Avenue Station
Murray Hill Station
Bayside Station
Hempstead Station
Northport Station
Floral Park Station
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Amtrak7 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:04 am

The Pinelawn platform is now closed, and a new platform on the north side is to open with the start of service on Monday. It is still 2 cars.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:21 pm

It's official: The platform constructed and Pinelawn depot from the Ronkonkoma electrification is gone. Bricks and concrete have been broken, a backhoe ripped up the ground, and the new platform with four communication poles is erected. Weird thing is that there is no railing on the back of the platform, it's a tall a fence with posts, and yes the ramp has also been built.

As far as the NTC it has worked its way from JS Interlocking, past the new crossover switch in between Commack Road and Carll's Path, and up to the Deer Park Avenue overpass.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby tj48 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:46 pm

NTC machine working right now on the grade between Deer Park Ave overpass and Wyandanch station. Fascinating machine to watch.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby BM6569 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:56 pm

"MTA Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) has laid the final 5 miles of rail for its double-track project, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced late last week. "

http://www.progressiverailroading.com/p ... ect--53677
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:47 pm

BM6569 wrote:"MTA Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) has laid the final 5 miles of rail for its double-track project, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced late last week. "

http://www.progressiverailroading.com/p ... ect--53677


As tj48 stated above, the NTC is currently going down the hill from the Deer Park Avenue overpass towards Wyandanch. They still have to lay the second track through Wyandanch, through Pinelawn Cemetery (the station platform was torn down with the new one in service to the North), through New Highway, and all the way to FARM Interlocking's Eastern switch. The project will be finished ahead of time, but then they have to add the ballast, finish up the interlocking switches West of Wyandanch, finish the new interlocking West of Central Islip, modernize KO Interlocking, Wyandanch rising where the new station will have a handicap-accessible elevator like Mineola, etc.
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