MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdale

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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby newkirk » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:07 pm

Thanks MACTRAXX for the information of the photos I posted.

On that first photo, isn't GP 38-2 #262 now part of the NYAR fleet ?
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Teutobergerwald » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:04 pm

Is the 617 the Alco FA in the picture? I seem to recall it was the only FA that retained those style number boards.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby AlKaLI » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:59 pm

When the double track was installed near Farmingdale, the double ended siding east of Route 110 (New Highway Area) had the western turnout removed.
NYA freights heading east now have to back in to serve Coastal Distribution (C&D) and Posillico Materials (Aggregates).

Are there plans to restore the turnout and make the siding double-ended again?
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby twropr » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:46 pm

My 2006 ETT shows interlockings Farm 1 and Farm 2. Does the new track (?Track 2) begin at Farm 1 or 2?
Just out of curiosity why would the same name be used with a "1" or "2" suffix?
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby workextra » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:49 pm

Farm 2 is now gone and Farm 1 is “Farm” a lot of changes on the mainline.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:08 am

workextra wrote:Farm 2 is now gone and Farm 1 is “Farm” a lot of changes on the mainline.


What about the dwarf signal that was labeled FARM3? I know the configuration is just FARM1 is now FARM with your traditional crossovers (Main 1 to Main 2 and Main 2 to Main 1) and there are switches for the linear siding for trains that terminate and originate at Farmingdale. Although thanks to the project, many of the trains that terminated at Farmingdale now go all the way out to Ronkonkoma for the purpose of reverse off-peak.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MACTRAXX » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:47 pm

MACTRAXX wrote:
What I am interested in particular is which platform westbound trains will be serving Central Islip.
As some know CI is the only 1987 station building that is on the south side-Platform B. With the
timetable beginning in September westbound trains may continue to serve Platform B by using the
south track out of Ronkonkoma and then crossing over at the new CI interlocking over to the north
track. All eastbound trains would serve the north side Platform A and then continue to KO on that
track. If all westbound trains were to use the "proper" north track at CI riders would have to use
either the overhead bridge or the Lowell Avenue crossing sidewalks at the east end to cross over.
This could be addressed by placing added TVMs and/or a new waiting room on the north side. I am
looking forward to see what the CI platform assignments are under the new September schedule...

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Everyone: Back on August 15, 2018 (bottom of Page 32) I posted about a potential problem with
westbound trains at Central Islip using Platform A - the north platform. From News 12 LI on 2/5:
http://longisland.news12.com/story/3991 ... islip-lirr

I predicted correctly that there would be problems at Central Islip if westbound trains served
Platform A. One incorrect statement in the News 12 report is that ALL trains served Platform B.
Platform A had limited service with its passing siding status noted in the Ronkonkoma Branch TT.
MTA Police have been ticketing riders ducking under the Lowell Avenue crossing gate at the east
end of the platforms crossing over in front of arriving westbound trains.

It will be interesting to see the LIRR's response to the Central Islip problems...MACTRAXX
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby geico » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:21 am

How about people just get there earlier.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:13 am

Not only arrive earlier, but the station has a pedestrian overpass! Of course people are going to go under the gates. It's called idiocy, Darwinism, people failing to use common sense, and not using the organ God gave you three feet above your Gluteus Maximus!

One thing though that the LIRR can do is put in a pedestrian underpass near the station building like at most Hempstead Branch stations.
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MACTRAXX » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:02 pm

geico: That was the response of the LIRR spokesman interviewed for the News 12 LI story.

MA90:

I believe that Central Islip riders ducking the gate IN FRONT of arriving trains are the people being
ticketed. The gates go up quickly westbound once the last east car clears the crossing circuit.
Train crews are likely more vigilant knowing that riders are crossing over between platforms.

A pedestrian underpass will be a totally unnecessary expense at Central Islip - and may create its
own problems as another place undesirables can loiter. At Bay Shore - which once had a underpass
outside the station building - there were problems that were serious enough that the LIRR sealed
up and filled in the underpass in favor of a replacement pedestrian overpass west of the building.

A partial solution to this problem would be to move at least one full-service TVM to Platform A in
one of the shelters - which have been in use since the CI station was opened. Enclosing shelters
from the elements - which is a good idea - can again create problems with loitering as has been
the case from time to time with the station building - which has basic amenities (heat, restroom)
for riders. The MTA Police are located just 1/2 mile west on Suffolk Avenue and do patrol the CI
Station on a regular basis.

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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby nyandw » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:28 am

Wow, what great documentation of this project. I last checked in around page 23 as follows:
"...Folks, This thread material is terrific; as it documents historically the project, perhaps like no project prior. What is being done here in "real time" is super. :-)

I would suggest photo documentation perhaps take a turn; for example. I'll refer to a previous Ronkonkoma Project page; just as an example: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/Ronkon ... cation.htm of "back collecting" material/photos/etc. The dates/locations/photographers/and details get lost over time; whether film or digital.

Our new challenge, perhaps, is to pick our photos for the future and digitally label them; delete the rest. Camera date/time stamp is nice, however, some find it distracting from the photo to have it on the image... I'll agree, depending.... To do a Google/ hard drive search for a specific photo with a camera date/time stamp that has a file name of: IMG_0017_zps6werercvd6b5f0ac.jpg is impossible, as I see it...even days, much less years later..."


Going through the thread the issue continues: Location, date, view, and credits on photos... Sorry to harp on it, but everyone complains years later with the posting of incorrect data, assumptions and frankly, false nonsense..
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby newkirk » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:48 pm

Farmingdale view east. New signals up, old Pennsy signals gone

Will the old signal bridge be removed ?
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby Head-end View » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:00 pm

Interesting that they mounted that normally dwarf-type signal up on a pole because of the platform. Even Metro-North only raises them slightly above platform level in those situations. Still weird that they put the red light on top and green in the middle. Most railroad signals have the red on the bottom and green on top. I guess LIRR likes to reinvent the wheel. :(
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Re: MTA LIRR Double Track Project - Ronkonkoma to Farmingdal

Postby MattAmity90 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:24 am

They also have a pedestal signal of the same manner just past the WB platform at Pinelawn between the station and Wellwood Avenue grade crossing. Honestly, I would have preferred them on masts than have them situated that low to the ground, especially at Deer Park where Pilgrim's siding is.
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