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BART to Livermore - Controversy

Postby lpetrich » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:27 pm

Californians Clash Over Extending BART Service to Livermore - NYTimes.com

John McPartland, the new president of the transit agency’s elected board of directors, has made it his mission to extend BART to this East Bay suburb of 80,000, which is home to Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories. ...

“It’s just not the best use of a billion and a half dollars, especially with our capital needs,” said Mr. Radulovich. “Some of it’ll end up coming out of funds that otherwise would have gone to the maintenance and rehab, system capacity, seismic safety and car replacement.”

Tom Radulovich is BART's Vice President.

But supporters from Livermore say that BART owes them an extension, because they have been paying taxes to support the agency since its inception.

However, the former mayor of Dublin, CA, Linda Jeffery Sailors, successfully got BART to change its Livermore-extension plans from a 11-mi, $3.8-billion, downtown-Livermore one to a 5-mi, $1.2-billion, I-580-only one with a station in west Livermore, likely at I-580 and Isabel Ave. But it could still be extended further eastward later on.

barttolivermore.org now redirects to BART - Livermore Extension
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Re: BART to Livermore - Controversy

Postby lpetrich » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:10 am

I checked BART - Livermore Extension, and the current plan is to extend 4.8 mi eastward to I-580 and Isabel Ave in west Livermore.

It's described as Phase I, so the next phase may extend either into downtown Livermore or to a station in NE Livermore on I-580.
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Re: BART to Livermore - Controversy

Postby electricron » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:37 pm

If BART can find the funds to extend its lines to San Jose, a city that contributes nothing to BART, surely it can find funds to extend its lines to Livermore, which has been providing funds to BART for decades.
If not, then BART should cancel the unsubsidized rail line to San Jose.
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Re: BART to Livermore - Controversy

Postby lpetrich » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:17 pm

True, San Jose has not paid into the system, but Santa Clara County will be contributing. VTA BART Silicon Valley has a section on funding:
The total capital cost of the BART Silicon Valley Berryessa Extension is estimated at approximately $2.3 billion. Funding for this project will come through multiple revenue streams including: the 2000 Measure A, half-cent sales tax and other local sources would contribute 51%, the State of California and its Traffic Congestion Relief Program (TCRP) would contribute 10%, and federal grants including the New Starts program would provide the remaining 39% of the funding.


Checking on the schedules at Livermore Amador Valley Transit Authority : Home, it takes about 42 minutes on Rte. 10 from my former east-Livermore home (East + Hillcrest) to the East D-P BART station.

BART between East D/P and West Livermore would be about 6 min. To central Livermore would be about 12 min by local bus and 5 min more to my former home. So it's a time saving of 27 minutes of bus riding, though BART and transfer time will reduce the saving to about 16 min.
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Re: BART to Livermore - Controversy

Postby lpetrich » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:09 pm

Planning slowly advances.
BART - Livermore Extension

That page shows what they've decided on: an extension in I-580 from East Dublin/Pleasanton to Isabel Ave. It also shows some possible express-bus routes, to Las Positas College, a possible park-and-ride lot at I-580 and Greenville Rd., and the Vasco Rd. ACE station.
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Re: BART to Livermore - Controversy

Postby lpetrich » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:07 am

Transportation measures in S.F., Alameda County win support - SFGate
The $7.8 billion Alameda County transportation tax, Measure BB, was closer but appeared headed towardthe needed two-thirds approval. The 30-year tax measure, nearly identical to one that narrowly failed in 2012, would extend an existing half-cent sales tax and tack on another half cent. With 53 percent of precincts reporting, the measure led 69.06 percent to 30.94 percent.

Measure BB would devote most of its money — nearly $5 billion — to transit, bicycle and pedestrian improvements, including $400 million toward a Livermore BART extension and $1.5 billion to boost AC Transit service. Roughly $3 billion would go to streets and highways — mostly for maintenance but also for new interchanges on Interstate 80 and carpool lanes on Interstate 680.

Looks like the Livermore extension may be going ahead, since it looks like it will be getting local funding.
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Re: BART to Livermore - Controversy

Postby lpetrich » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:33 am

Livermore City Council supports taking BART board power away
The council supported proposed legislation, Assembly Bill 758, introduced by Assemblywoman Catharine Baker (R- San Ramon) and Assemblywoman Susan Eggman (D-Stockton), to create a new rail authority for the BART-to-Livermore project. The Tri Valley-San Joaquin Valley Regional Rail Authority would plan a regional rail connection between BART, Altamont Corridor Express (ACE) in the Tri-Valley, or a new regional connection between the valley and San Joaquin County, according to a city report.

The bill recommends transferring any funds already dedicated to the Livermore project to the new panel. The bill also states that BART would assume ownership and operations once the extension is built.

This kind of deal is not unprecedented. There is a similar sort of agency that has been building the Los Angeles Gold Line from downtown LA to Pasadena, Azusa, and Montclair (Construction Authority | Foothill Gold Line).
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Re: BART to Livermore - Controversy

Postby bdawe » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:20 pm

Thing is - Livermore wants everyone to build them a parking lot shuttle closer than the current parking lot shuttle. They have specifically opposed any design for BART to Livermore that might ever be anything more than a staggeringly expensive parking lot shuttle by going downtown, in classic, elitist style in fear of the 'crime train'.

No one should give them this as long as they insist that rapid transit can only be something to save them on parking.
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Re: BART to Livermore - Controversy

Postby lpetrich » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:34 pm

Yes, the "Loot Rail" fear. From my Livermore days, I remember someone expressing that fear.

Planning advances: BART to Livermore Draft Environmental Impact Report Available for Public Review | bart.gov
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