Metrolink Derailment at Oxnard, CA

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Metrolink Derailment at Oxnard, CA

Postby Tom6921 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:35 am

I saw on CNN that a Metrolink train had derailed. It appeared to have struck something at a crossing. The train was in push mode and had a Rotem cab car leading though there was one Bombardier coach in the consist.

The cab car and the Bombardier car are on their sides. Last I checked there were 30 injuries, but no fatalities.

This may be the accident that could prove that if the new cars are safer than the Bombardier cars.
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby Martin Baumann » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:11 am

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Re: First Rotem car derailment - live coverage

Postby rdgrailfan » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:15 am

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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:15 am

Raw video from the scene:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dozens ... ar-BBhUYOr

Too close to Chatsworth for comfort; at least this time, another party will in all likelihood take the fault. But regardless, "taxpayers open 'em up" and dig deep.

Fortunately, no fatalities yet reported.
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby talltim » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:34 pm

Surely, assuming the truck driver was at fault (and absconding afterwards makes that look likely) their insurance will be covering it. Obviously making another assumption that they have any. You know what they say about assumptions!
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby MichaelB86 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:31 pm

Man Metrolink has the worst luck don't they? That intersection is pretty bad though, and hey, nobody is dead. Hopefully the Hoghead recovers okay. I don't know if Amtrak awards "piling up a train because of a produce truck" claims but they should. Anyway, I naturally expect the media to as usual, not know what the hell is going on. I'm sure they'll cry PTC and vilify Metrolink's brand all because of the accidental negligence of a truck driver.
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby Martin Baumann » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:08 pm

945 was leading the train with F59 870 at the rear
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby Backshophoss » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:47 pm

This is UP's Santa Barbara Sub track,shared with Metrolink,and Amtrak,under UP Dispatcher control.
Metrolink has a layup point at Montalvo.
Understand that NTSB will be at wreck site tonight and investagate.
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby deathtopumpkins » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:41 pm

MichaelB86 wrote:Anyway, I naturally expect the media to as usual, not know what the hell is going on. I'm sure they'll cry PTC and vilify Metrolink's brand all because of the accidental negligence of a truck driver.


CNN's already stuck this gem in an article (syndicated with local news):
The train wasn't equipped with positive train control, which can automatically stop a train. Lustgarten said Metrolink was already planning to add the technology within months.


Because PTC totally would have prevented this incident.
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby ExCon90 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:27 pm

Of course--every news commentator knows that ...
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:48 pm

I guess the driver has his "abogado"

http://a.msn.com/r/2/BBhWFte?a=1&m=en-us

Fair Use quotation:

OXNARD, Calif. — An attorney for a driver who left his pickup truck on railroad tracks, triggering the derailment of a Los Angeles-bound commuter train, says the man made repeated efforts to move the vehicle before the train arrived.

Attorney Ron Bamieh said Wednesday that Jose Alejandro Sanchez-Ramirez accidentally drove onto the tracks. He made things worse by driving farther to try to get enough speed to get over the rails.

Bamieh says the Arizona man then tried pushing the vehicle before putting on his high beams and running for his life before impact.



Otherwise this Associated Press (courtesy of MSN) has photos of the scene that previously I had not seen.
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Metrolink Rotem cab car in crossing accident - Oxnard, CA

Postby MACTRAXX » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:33 pm

Martin Baumann wrote:945 was leading the train with F59 870 at the rear


MB: Rotem cab car 645 was the one overturned in this wreck - it is clearly visible in some pictures and videos
of this accident...

The ABC News link posted by rdgrailfan no longer is covering this subject...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos/metro ... slideshow/

The truck driver looks to be clearly at fault in this mishap and not only did the equipment hold up well
even with cars overturning there were no fatalities and not many serious injuries...

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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby kaitoku » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:54 pm

It is unclear where exactly the driver drove unto the tracks- was it at the designated grade crossing, or did he just randomly cut across the ROW somewhere else (it appears at least one side along the track is unfenced). The following quote from the LAT is telling:
Investigators said they plan to talk to Sanchez-Ramirez in an effort to find out why his truck was struck 80 feet down the track from the actual crossing.

“Why was that truck there? And once it was there, why did it not move?” he said.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby ExCon90 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:04 pm

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that according to the driver's attorney the driver erroneously made a turn onto the track and then tried to move forward along the rails but stalled, panicked, and ran. However, the story also reported that the authorities stated that the parking brake was on and the driver had not called 911. If that's true there's an eerie resemblance to the Metrolink collision at Glendale some years ago (an attempted suicide in which the driver changed his mind at the last minute and abandoned his truck where it was).
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Re: First Rotem car derailment

Postby Backshophoss » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:52 pm

From the KNX stream:Fatel Hit and Run charges on the truck driver from Yuma AZ,
were dropped today at court,but will be revisited at next court hearing on May 8.
NTSB to Inspect cars involved in the wreck at Metrolink's shop tomorrow in LA.
Per NTSB:from cab car video, truck headlight and flashers seen 11 seconds before,Brakes in Emergency at 8 seconds before crash.
Y-day,engineer of train involved had heart attack at ICU,revived,now has pacemaker for heart
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