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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby Fan Railer » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:30 pm

Well, would you look at this:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/caterp ... -184491630
I would really like to see Illinois's response letter, to be honest.
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby dowlingm » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:11 am

Did Siemens make an offer on the tender the F125 was selected for in California?
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby Fan Railer » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:56 pm

No. That tender was finalized before the Siemens design was even introduced.
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby dowlingm » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:17 pm

Thanks
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby Desertdweller » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:18 am

Speaking of Darth Vader, go back to the original UP M10000.

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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby Fan Railer » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:33 am

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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby DutchRailnut » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:54 pm

still looks like LIRR DE/DM but with clear skin.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby MEC407 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:30 pm

EMD ships Metrolink's first Tier 4 locomotive from Indiana

http://www.progressiverailroading.com/m ... ana--48504
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby mtuandrew » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:12 pm

MEC407 wrote:EMD ships Metrolink's first Tier 4 locomotive from Indiana

http://www.progressiverailroading.com/m ... ana--48504

The commuter railroad's long-term fleet plan calls for adding up to 40 new Tier 4 locomotives at a cost of $280 million.

$7m apiece, steep compared to a standard Tier 3 GEVO ca. 2014 or a cost-adjusted $211,600 ($2.1m today) of a 1949 Alco PA. Guessing the price will drop though - Metrolink had to bear the brunt of the development costs.
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby MEC407 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:30 pm

Passenger locos are always a lot more expensive than freight locos, and these days the upfront cost typically includes a longterm maintenance contract, training, and other add-ons. If I recall correctly, MBTA paid a similar price for their GEVO-powered HSP46s, which use a much higher percentage of off-the-shelf freight loco components than these new EMD/CAT beasts.
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby D.Carleton » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:02 am

EMD has a Tier IV passenger locomotive available before a Tier IV freight locomotive. What has this world come to?
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby mtuandrew » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:32 pm

Reopening an old thread:

How are the F125s faring in actual service? We've been talking up the Siemens SC-44 so much in the Amtrak forum that for a while I forgot about EMD's entry.

Also, what are your thoughts on stuffing a 12-1010 into an EMD passenger locomotive, now that the J block is finally ready?
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby DutchRailnut » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:31 am

did you say "in service" hmmm....
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby MEC407 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:59 am

mtuandrew wrote:Also, what are your thoughts on stuffing a 12-1010 into an EMD passenger locomotive, now that the J block is finally ready?


Those beasts need a lot of cooling capacity in order to function properly at Tier 4 and that might pose some issues in a 4-axle passenger locomotive where space/height/width are limited and weight has to be kept in check. For example, GE and MPI were able to do it with the Tier 3 GEVO-12 but I'm not sure if they could do it with the Tier 4 version which has more (and bigger) contraptions added to it. I suspect EMD would have the same issues and that's probably why they haven't done it.
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Re: EMD to build North American passenger locomotives once a

Postby NorthWest » Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:34 pm

Since the passenger operators are fine with urea after treatment, they could still use the 710. Just don't expect it to get over 110 MPH or so.
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