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Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby bagofbobbish » Sun May 08, 2016 6:19 pm

Are the fires in Canada likely to impact the Canadian route, or too far off?
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby Backshophoss » Sun May 08, 2016 8:23 pm

Fort McMurry is in the NE part of Alberta,way up north of the CN and CP mainlines.
VIA would have reported service disruptions to the Canadian days ago.
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby electricron » Sun May 08, 2016 10:28 pm

Fort McMurtry is 497 miles away from Jasper, the equivalent distance between New York City and Toledo, or Charollette, or Wilmington. Would a forest fire in Toledo, Ohio put trains at risk in North Carolina or In New York City, or vice versa?
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby marquisofmississauga » Sun May 08, 2016 10:49 pm

VIA is offering free transportation on the Canadian from Edmonton for residents of Fort McMurray.

http://www.viarail.ca/en/about-via-rail ... s-fort-mcm
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby Backshophoss » Mon May 09, 2016 2:20 am

The CBC is not shared on the US cable systems(or Dish/Direct TV sat systems),so if there are other fires in Alberta,
the US public is unaware of them...
CNN,Fox News and the Major US networks are covering the Fort McMurray fire due to the massive destruction
of the town and it's residents being displaced.

Is there a branch line from the CN/CP that reaches Ft McMurray to haul out the crude from the oil sands
or is all pipelined to the refinery ??
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby NorthWest » Mon May 09, 2016 8:55 am

CN has the former A&GW/NAR line to Waterways (part of Fort McMurray that was apparently almost entirely destroyed) that was previously being used for CBR trains. Oil production has stopped, but the plants were not damaged.
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby chriskay » Mon May 09, 2016 12:43 pm

Looking at Google Maps, it appears the line ends at a yard just SE of the city, but you can follow the contour of what appears to be an abandoned ROW from there into downtown Ft Mac. Did the line previously end there or did it continue north?

Link to yard area and former ROW off to NW: https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Fort+McMurray,+AB/@56.6395917,-111.1310893,2424m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x53b03aeeff1a4459:0x5c8133330dca74b7!8m2!3d56.7263796!4d-111.3803407

ETA: After further sleuthing, it appears the line from the yard to the Waterways area was ripped up at some point, and it may have ended there - it's hard to tell.
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby NS VIA FAN » Tue May 10, 2016 4:06 am

Back in the day....NAR had passenger service to Waterways and for a short period they even used a leased CPR RDC.

Eventually it was a Mixed Train service that ended in the 1980.
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby AgentSkelly » Wed May 11, 2016 3:17 am

Backshophoss wrote:The CBC is not shared on the US cable systems(or Dish/Direct TV sat systems),so if there are other fires in Alberta,
the US public is unaware of them...
CNN,Fox News and the Major US networks are covering the Fort McMurray fire due to the massive destruction
of the town and it's residents being displaced.

Is there a branch line from the CN/CP that reaches Ft McMurray to haul out the crude from the oil sands
or is all pipelined to the refinery ??


You get CBC in Buffalo and Detroit...
New Westminster to Amtrak 516, whats up with the extra 4 axles, over?
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby Backshophoss » Wed May 11, 2016 9:31 pm

Over the air near the border,you can watch,but since the start of "geo blocking" done in the US,a lost cause
in the broadband spectrum and Sat dishes/XM radio. :( :( :(
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby NS VIA FAN » Thu May 12, 2016 5:42 am

We're certainly getting off-topic......but I have Bell Expressview with a full range of US stations including all the network affiliates in Boston and Seattle plus specialty channels along with CNN, WGN Chicago, KTLA and WPCH Atlanta.

And I was surprised at the coverage NBC, ABC & CBS gave the fires. After the usual lead "Trump" story...it was onto Fort Mac.
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Re: Canadian Fires and the Canadian

Postby AgentSkelly » Fri May 13, 2016 3:53 am

Backshophoss wrote:Over the air near the border,you can watch,but since the start of "geo blocking" done in the US,a lost cause
in the broadband spectrum and Sat dishes/XM radio. :( :( :(


Last time I was at a friends house in Buffalo, Timer Warner carried it.

However, with that said, I know someone here in Portland with a Bell TV Dish; its weird watching CFTO from Portland...
New Westminster to Amtrak 516, whats up with the extra 4 axles, over?
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