City of St Louis with Wabash power??

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City of St Louis with Wabash power??

Postby The tram man » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:21 pm

Just found this picture on Wikipedia. Not only does it show the City of St Louis being pulled by Wabash power, but Wabash power with UP logo and City of St Louis text. Is there any truth to this image? Did Wabash E-units ever pull the City, and if so, did it ever wear UP heralds?

The picture is dated "circa 1950." Does anyone know where i might be able to find the 1950's consist?
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Re: City of St Louis with Wabash power?

Postby timz » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:51 pm

Did Wabash E's ever look like that? We assume not.

Otto Perry has several pics of the CoStL in Colorado with Wabash E's, e.g.
http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/si ... 5654/rec/4
http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/si ... 657/rec/16
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Re: City of St Louis with Wabash power??

Postby GWoodle » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:32 am

The tram man wrote:Just found this picture on Wikipedia. Not only does it show the City of St Louis being pulled by Wabash power, but Wabash power with UP logo and City of St Louis text. Is there any truth to this image? Did Wabash E-units ever pull the City, and if so, did it ever wear UP heralds?

The picture is dated "circa 1950." Does anyone know where i might be able to find the 1950's consist?


I have the Wabash in color book, it clearly shows:
1) Wabash is in the door light or 2 light camp. The logo in the photo covers this light. Some debate if the Wabash flag is painted on the unit, or painted on a steel plate with full clearance for the nose door.
2) City of St Louis a joint UP-Wabash operation from 1946. Wabash power into Denver, UP power into St Louis. Later trains kept home power on home rails. No dual locos.
3) City of St Louis had some coach & sleepers Wabash letter in UP color cars. Sleeper & coach to LA, Sleepers & coach to SF.
4) City of Kansas City day train all old heavy coach So
5) Picture is good for "City of St Louis" on the side of early E7. Later E8 have this area blank.

Wabash power does pull City of St Louis from Kansas City to St Louis home rails
I don't see any evidence of Wabash buying UP power
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Re: City of St Louis with Wabash power??

Postby The tram man » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:01 pm

GWoodle wrote:I have the Wabash in color book, it clearly shows:
1) Wabash is in the door light or 2 light camp. The logo in the photo covers this light. Some debate if the Wabash flag is painted on the unit, or painted on a steel plate with full clearance for the nose door.
2) City of St Louis a joint UP-Wabash operation from 1946. Wabash power into Denver, UP power into St Louis. Later trains kept home power on home rails. No dual locos.
3) City of St Louis had some coach & sleepers Wabash letter in UP color cars. Sleeper & coach to LA, Sleepers & coach to SF.
4) City of Kansas City day train all old heavy coach So
5) Picture is good for "City of St Louis" on the side of early E7. Later E8 have this area blank.

Wabash power does pull City of St Louis from Kansas City to St Louis home rails
I don't see any evidence of Wabash buying UP power


1) So their units most likely never wore the UP herald?
2) That was actually new to me. I knew about the train, but i can't recall knowing that it was a dual operation.
3) I have seen a few photos of that actually, though all have been coaches.
4) And that relates to this, how?
5) That i've seen, but i've never seen any text in that area.

I never said that they bought any UP power, but i thought that the UP herald might have been applied as a sign of cooperation.
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