NYSW SD70M Official Thread (Please Read)

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NYSW SD70M Official Thread (Please Read)

Postby amoreho1 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:52 pm

Moderators note: This Sticky has been created, to combine the multiple SD-70 threads, into a single topic, for asking questions, making comments and posting pictures, about the SD-70's. Any and/or all comments related to SD-70's should be posted here. This should end the frustration of searching for that SD-70 info you needed. Regards :wink:







(Original question asked by amoreho1):

how long are the sd70's on lease for ?
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Postby midland sub » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:06 pm

Should be for three more years when the orginal trust expires. The NYSW does not want any of the three back. When I caught 4050/4054 together last week, 4054 looked to have more oil on it than in it.
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SD-70

Postby bruce a. » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:52 am

Can any tell about the NYSW SD-70's Thanks Bruce
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Postby charlie6017 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:46 am

Hi Bruce,
There is already an active thread on this halfway down the page. They are on lease to the IORY.

Here's the link:
http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38809
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Re: SD-70

Postby ap621 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:46 am

bruce a. wrote:Can any tell about the NYSW SD-70's Thanks Bruce

They are leased out to the Indiana & Ohio. There is a picture of one here...
http://forums.railfan.net/forums.cgi?bo ... 1180914985
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At Least ONE SD70M Was Spotted Running Last Week.....

Postby rcbsd45 » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:45 pm

I spent the week of June 25th on vacation, traveling out and around Ohio with the camera, visiting friends and railfanning. I was able to stumble on the the NYS&W SD70M # 4050 in ther town of Ottawa, on the Indiana and Ohio Railroad, where they've been for the past few years. Images are below, and as you can tell by the faded paint, missing letters, and dented fuel tank, the locomotive could use some TLC(on home rails, of course......).....


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... ?id=800533


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... ?id=800534



and heres what she was behind.... an SP(but I&O owned)SD45T-2:


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... ?id=800532


These were the only images of ANY of the SD70M's i got, and i actually stumbled on the train while searching for dinner with my traveling partner.... but at least we know she's still up and running....
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Postby charlie6017 » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:58 pm

Nice catch, boss! That yellow is really starting to fade on the 4050........ :(
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Postby lvrr325 » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:56 pm

I read in Snailpace a while back the other two were down in need ot repairs, one with a bad traction motor I believe. They've all had the living crap beat out of them since day 1, I am sure.
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Postby GOLDEN-ARM » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:58 am

The Tunnel-Motor looks awesome. I loved running them, much more than the SD-70's. The 70's are being run into the ground. Funny how that SP unit looks so fresh, and the relatively new "Q" unit looks like she's ready for LTEs' backlot......... :P
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Postby Luther Brefo » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:04 am

What is the length on this lease? When will it end?
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Postby washingtonsecondary » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:29 am

Originally it was a 3 year lease, but it was extended, probably another 3 years. NYS&W doesn't want them back so I don't think you'll see them on an SU99 anytime in the distant future.
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Postby Luther Brefo » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:27 pm

washingtonsecondary wrote:Originally it was a 3 year lease, but it was extended, probably another 3 years. NYS&W doesn't want them back so I don't think you'll see them on an SU99 anytime in the distant future.


Thanks for the info.

Are the SD70's really in that bad a shape that even the NYSW doesn't want them?

Is there no warranty on them?
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Postby RichM » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:51 pm

This is strictly a business decision... the lease revenue exceeds their monthly cost... and equivalent horsepower has been purchased at a far lower capital cost. Granted that the locomotives obtained are older... but the principla commodities moved aren't significantly time-sensitive, there's no need for new power.

This thread or something like it keeps popping up. Reality is that the railroad is a business. As Otto said in a previous thread, if you don't like what the railroad does, demand your money back.
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Postby midland sub » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:04 pm

The lease was extended until the orginal trust expires in 2011. So a little less than 4 more years on the I&O. Sort of strange to think they've been leased to the I&O longer than the Suskie actually used them.

Out of the three 4050 seems to be in the best mechanical condition, i.e. it breaks down the least. 4054 still has the best NYSW paint job, but seems to be OSS quite a bit. The I&O is a strange operation in some aspects, though that's to be discussed at other forums. 4050 and 4052 seem to run together the most. I'm still waiting to catch all three together on the I&O.

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Postby Wanderer » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:41 pm

According to the guys on the I&O lists...

4050 is alive and well, just returned to IORY Tuesday at Cincy off a CSX G51730. Should be on IORY 400.
4052 is DOA with a traction motor issue.
4054 is alive and well, just returned to IORY at Cincy from Atlanta off CSX Q23601. Should be laying over up in Norwood.
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