Mishap at Union Station, Utica, NY

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Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby Kuyahoora Valley » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:36 pm

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Mishap at Union Station, Utica, NY

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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby Dick H » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:17 pm

Photo of 6721 and runaway covered hopper.

http://www.localsyr.com/story/d/story/t ... YfY1WRBtkA
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby ut-1 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:23 pm

Here is a short YouTube video showing the aftermath of this occurrence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDbnqvPfs7A
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby Dick H » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:34 pm

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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby RussNelson » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:01 pm

FYI, the cited distance of 1.5 miles is within the F.X.Matt brewery. It's also the only possible origin of a car without reverse moves.
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby brockwaythemusician » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:42 am

There are usually a covered hopper or two on the siding under the bridge from the arterial ramp to Burrstone Road. I remember seeing a single car under that bridge on the way home yesterday and figured it was that one when I saw the news today. The brewery siding has a slight decline off Schuyler Street and I figure it would be hard to just roll away from there. Are they sure it wasn't the lone car under the bridge?
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby Kuyahoora Valley » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:07 am

Not the first time NYS&W has had a runaway in Utica...back in the late 80s some box cars ran down Schuyler Street and slammed into the engine house...damaged one of the passenger cars and 1802
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby ut-1 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:54 am

It rolled approx 2.5 miles, from the siding just past the old Scheidelman's Warehouse. Edit: The hopper was positioned just south of the Burrstone Rd overpass.

Here is a picture showing three railroad employees clustered about the derail just north of where the covered hopper broke free.

Edit: Pic taken last night.
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby ut-1 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:09 am

And, here's a short video showing the scene this morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJmQS5ZsiJA
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby sd80mac » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:38 am

If it wasn't for 6721, hopper would had ran through that stairway and collapse the walkway.
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby Benjamin Maggi » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:12 pm

So did it completely roll through the NYS&W yard west of Utica station without anyone noticing it moving?
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby sd80mac » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:44 pm

Benjamin Maggi wrote:So did it completely roll through the NYS&W yard west of Utica station without anyone noticing it moving?


In other group, it was mentioned that it was placed in storage track along Canal St. I'm not sure where's that in Utica..
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby n2xjk » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:35 pm

The hopper was loaded, rolled down a 2% grade, reached about 40 mph. Not much time to react once it entered the yards.
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Re: Utica Derailment 7/21: Union Station Damaged

Postby tree68 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:51 pm

n2xjk wrote:The hopper was loaded, rolled down a 2% grade, reached about 40 mph. Not much time to react once it entered the yards.


"What was that?"

"I dunno, but it was fast!"

Given the territory it covered (including 4 lane Oriskany Blvd and street running on Schuyler St), it's a wonder there wasn't more havoc.
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