Bucksport Branch activity & news

Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby newpylong » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:57 pm

A guess: Load log cars onsite, send to Ayer, move logs to container, truck to Boston. Ayer to Bucksport becomes captive fleet.

Once Pan Am, a short haul trucker and the ship gets a cut there can't be much profit left.
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby BostonUrbEx » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:17 pm

They're going to transload on North Station Track 1, and just reach over the fence to grab the logs off the cars. Or maybe Tower A Mainline 8, along the access road! You have no problem with that, right 1118? :wink:

If rumors are true that they're trying to pursue Casella Waste, they could unload lower volumes back there. They could also restore the Mystic Wharf Branch up to, but not crossing, Rutherford Ave and transload on about 700' of track along D St if that'd be allowed. They may have to do such a restoration just to access Casella, anyway. Other options might include being able to secure a track in the New England Produce Center (600'?) or Boston Market Terminal (up to 1,300') where it wouldn't impact current ops. There's about 750' of the former Wynn siding that is on MBTA property and along a temporary Wynn access road. There's some more options, but they're even more of a stretch. My bet is that it won't actually be all that close to Boston at all, and perhaps be an additional customer for Greater Boston Terminal (Iron Horse Park).
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby Hux » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:58 pm

Why not run 'em up to St. John?
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby GP40MC1118 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:41 pm

Nah....Mainline 8 is too close to the misfit skateboarders and the new North Point condos! They would not love the
smell of pulpwood in the morning!

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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby eustis22 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:21 am

It's cheaper to mill the logs in china than in maine??
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby MEC407 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:07 am

Anything/everything is cheaper to do in China than in the US. I don't know of any cities or states anywhere in America where people would do this kind of work for $1 an hour. Even with Maine's relatively low cost of living, we expect (and need) to be paid more than that.
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby hh660 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:03 pm

Quite a few years ago P.D. Merrill in Portland, attempted to sell logs to a Japanese group. He amassed a huge stockpile of Hemlock logs along Commercial Street next to-maybe in-old yard 8. They sat there, for what seemed months. The story was that when the potential buyers cam to inspect the the 30 foot long Hemlock, disappointed in the lengths, they asked, 'where is the rest of the tree?' and walked away from the deal.
The logs sat there for another several months until they were hauled away by truck for some use in Maine or New Hampshire.

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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby johnpbarlow » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:40 am

It's too bad Maine Biomass Exports Inc bark stripping/transload operation isn't located at Waterville or N Maine Jct to be able to get more expeditious service from Pan Am. Are the hemlock trees coming from someplace very close to Bucksport? Or is it the availability of former Verso land and/or proximity to water that makes Bucksport more attractive to Maine Biomass?
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby newpylong » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:42 am

I am sure the logs are coming from all over and the location had to do with cost, existing infrastructure, rail access, large acreage, existing zoning, etc
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby gokeefe » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:33 am

They're going to ship by container ...

“With the rail we’ll have the ability to ship 25 to 50 containers a week,” he said.


Very interesting ... That has diverse implications far beyond just Boston to Bucksport.
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby eustis22 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:20 am

>Anything/everything is cheaper to do in China than in the US.

Actually, I was asking if it was cheaper to cut, ship, and mill in China vs cut, mill here. Gotta keep those Chinese mills going, cause they're the backbone of the U.S. economy.
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby BM6569 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:09 pm

They wouldn't ship the logs in containers, right? Or is that how they are shipped overseas?
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby newpylong » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:57 pm

Yes containers.
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Re: Bucksport Branch activity & news

Postby emyers » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:07 pm

chances of this actually happening?
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