Naugatuck Intermodal Yard - Pan Am Southern PAS / Poland Spring

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Naugatuck Intermodal Yard - Pan Am Southern PAS / Poland Spring

Postby CannaScrews » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:39 pm

The bridge over the Naugatuck River going into Albert Brothers Recycling is having new deck timbers installed. This was the former Waterville & Watertown RR which connected with the original Naugatuck Railroad.
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Postby Scalziand » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:35 am

The town of Naugatuck is in negotiations with Pan Am and the current owners of the old Uniroyal factory brownfield to build an intermodal yard there, reports this weeks' (9/1) Citizens News.

Borough eyes former factory site for transportation hub


By Luke Marshall
Staff Writer

NAUGATUCK — The future of Naugatuck lies in intermodal transportation. At least that is what Mayor N. Warren “Pete” Hess is banking on. Hess said the borough is working with Pan Am Railways, Inc. and “several very large national and international companies from the New England area” to create an intermodal transportation hub on an 86.5 acre parcel of land along Elm Street. An intermodal transportation hub is where goods are moved from one source of transportation, such as a train, to another transportation source, such as a tractor-trailer, before reaching their final destination.

http://thecitizensnews.ct.newsmemory.com/
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby Sir Ray » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:36 pm

The article makes it sound more like a transload center than an intermodal terminal, but such articles often use imprecise/incorrect terminology.
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby ccutler » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:42 pm

Seems like there's something behind the scenes at work. On the surface, the economics make no sense. Maybe this is linked to Poland Spring traffic?
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby newpylong » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:57 pm

That is correct.
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby johnpbarlow » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:30 am

This paragraph seems a little divorced from the reality of how rail freight is handled in metro NY...

The transportation hub would also help companies that are coming from Europe looking to ship goods north, Hess said. Currently, shipments are loaded onto trains in New York, he said.
“When you are in the New York City you have to maneuver through several sets of train lines to get out. You can’t just land in New York City, get on the train and go direct to Boston. You would have to change several trains, which means changing your cargo several times and negotiating different rates. So, from the converse, when goods come by ports to New York City or Newark, those goods would be sent by truck to Naugatuck and then would go north by train to New England or Canada,” Hess said.


So this traffic would use MN between Naugatuck and Waterbury, Pan Am Southern between Waterbury and Berlin, and Conn River line to/from E Deerfield? My understanding is the PAS line to Waterbury sees a single turn local per week (?) and IIRC the track through downtown New Britain, CT isn't in great condition so some significant track improvement might be needed between Berlin, CT and Waterbury (just like on PAR between NMJ and Lincoln, ME)? Sounds like there's a lot of heavy lifting to get this intermodal/transload service off the ground...
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby J.D. Lang » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:21 pm

So this traffic would use MN between Naugatuck and Waterbury, Pan Am Southern between Waterbury and Berlin, and Conn River line to/from E Deerfield? My understanding is the PAS line to Waterbury sees a single turn local per week (?) and IIRC the track through downtown New Britain, CT isn't in great condition so some significant track improvement might be needed between Berlin, CT and Waterbury (just like on PAR between NMJ and Lincoln, ME)? Sounds like there's a lot of heavy lifting to get this intermodal/transload service off the ground...


Not just that but the whole Uniroyal site has to be one big superfund site. It's going to cost mucho bucks just to remediate. Who is going to pay for that. It would be wonderful to see it happen though.

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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby gokeefe » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:50 pm

How well would this location work for bottled water via Eimskip containers?
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby johnpbarlow » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:04 am

More PR from Naugatuck mayor on the proposed development of transload/intermodal site:

https://www.mycitizensnews.com/news/2017/11/hess-looking-long-term/

Relevant excerpt:

Hess, who worked as an attorney in Naugatuck for 40 years, said one of his main focuses over the next two years will be a plan to create an intermodal transportation hub on a mostly-vacant 86.5 acre parcel of land along Elm Street that is currently owned by Chemtura.

Hess is working with Pan Am Railways, the Connecticut Port Authority, the state Department of Transportation and state Department of Energy and Environmental Protection to turn the property into a major rail-to-truck transportation hub. Private companies would build warehouses on the site to store the goods.

The other major component of the plan is to build an inland port on the site, an area where goods coming from abroad could go through customs.
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby gokeefe » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:35 am

Almost exactly 1 hour from Poland Spring Distributing in White Plains, NY and about 20 minutes closer drive time than Plainville.
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby johnpbarlow » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:43 am

Two things:

1. Good news: Plainville train derailment was quickly cleared Friday AM by Pan Am:
http://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-plainville-train-accident-20171208-story.html

2. More PR from Naugatuck mayor about getting Pan Am to service a transload/intermodal site:
https://www.mycitizensnews.com/news/2017/12/mayor-sends-message-of-resurgence/

Hess said the project relies on improvements being made to the Waterbury branch line of the Metro-North Railroad before it can move forward. These improvements include sidings that allow two trains to pass at once, more train cars and moving the train station from its current location at 195 Water St. to Parcel B. These improvements are expected to take years to be completed, Hess said.


Guess it will be a long time before Naugatuck becomes an intermodal hub.
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby gokeefe » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:37 pm

The fact that it's even being considered is extraordinary in of itself.
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby gokeefe » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:58 pm

Confirmed today by both Pan Am President David Fink and Commissioner David Bernhardt today at the 29th Annual Meeting of TrainRiders Northeast in Portland:

Pan Am is building a new intermodal center in Naugatuck in order to capture traffic in excess of 600 truckloads of Poland Spring bottled water that goes from Maine to New York City every day.

MaineDOT is actively supporting this project. Commissioner Berhardt noted that the water traffic is likely well in excess of 600 truckloads per day at this point.
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby pnolette » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:49 am

But how long will this take to get done? Sounds like a few years..
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Re: They come to Connecticut: PL-1

Postby gokeefe » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:40 am

There was no timeline given. Based on other context I think about two years.
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