What's with Watertown?

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What's with Watertown?

Postby CSX Conductor » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:56 pm

What's going on with the Watertown Branch and Newlyweds? Is service no more? Just haven't read anything on here for quite a while and was curios as to the status of the rail service to Newlyweds.
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Postby b&m 1566 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:08 pm

Well it was about this time last year (I think) that Guilford filed for abandonment to abandon it with in three years. However a few weeks after filing for abandonment they lifted it. So for now it's staying operational for the foreseeable future and I haven’t heard much since.
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Postby octr202 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:22 am

If I have the time I'll try to poke around the end of the branch some day and see if there are any cars in newlyweds, although its tough to see down there into their siding.

I will say that this winter and last winter, when there's been snow on the ground, there hasn't been much evidence of anything running the branch -- not sure if GRS just won't go down it when they can't fully inspect what passes for track, or what, but again, in the last couple months it hasn't looked active.
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Postby CSX Conductor » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:51 pm

If alot of snow accumulates they might skip it to avoid a derailment while shoving. If they really want to get in there they could break-out the track lite engine first. Am I correct that they shove up there from Fresh Pond?
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Postby arsenall79 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:12 pm

Back in November, I was travelling on the commuter rail, and remember seeing three white boxcars on the siding, near the switch by the Fresh Pond Mall. The few times I've been past since then, I have seen nothing, and the tracks don't look like there has been much, if any, activity.
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Postby octr202 » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:53 pm

arsenall79 wrote:Back in November, I was travelling on the commuter rail, and remember seeing three white boxcars on the siding, near the switch by the Fresh Pond Mall. The few times I've been past since then, I have seen nothing, and the tracks don't look like there has been much, if any, activity.


The only thing that normally should go down the branch are covered hoppers of flour, as Newlywed foods is the only customer.

CSX C -- I'm not sure what their current (last, perhaps?) method was, but there isn't a runaround on the branch at all. For a long time when one of the Ayer locals ran the Fitchburg line, they had a caboose as a shoving platform for the Watertown branch. In 2002, it was quite a sight to see a freight come through Waltham, sometimes with a high nose GP35 or 40 runing long hood forward, a half dozen boxes, hoppers, gons and tanks, and a matching caboose on the rear -- like a model railroad!

Later, they apparently scrapped the cabesse and were using two Geeps on either end for the branch. That was certainly the case when the train got stuck in the mud on that infamous Saturday run back in 2004. :(
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Postby kwf » Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:55 pm

It almost looked to me that the grade crossing at Fresh Pond may have seen some flanges from a steel wheel when I saw it today...you know from the impressions left in the dirt build up...
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Service To The Watertown

Postby GP40MC1118 » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:33 pm

The only moves to and from the Watertown Branch this month were;

2/01 BO-1 out light engine, back with 4 empties.

2/09 BO-1 out with 4 loads, back to Somerville lite engine.

2/10 AY-Relief down with 4 loads, back to Ayer with a lite engine.

2/22 BO-1 brought out 4 empties to Somerville.

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Postby GP40MC 1116 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:20 pm

I was just wondering what was going on with the branch. I will have to go check it out myself sometime soon the next time I am down in Watertown
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Re: Service To The Watertown

Postby l008com » Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:58 pm

GP40MC1118 wrote:The only moves to and from the Watertown Branch this month were;

2/01 BO-1 out light engine, back with 4 empties.

2/09 BO-1 out with 4 loads, back to Somerville lite engine.

2/10 AY-Relief down with 4 loads, back to Ayer with a lite engine.

2/22 BO-1 brought out 4 empties to Somerville.

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I thought they got 3 loads a week?
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Postby Guilford Guy » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:18 pm

Well yesterday B&M YOSHI saw a GRS GP40 long nose forward with 4 hoppers intow in West concord
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Re: Service To The Watertown

Postby octr202 » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:32 pm

l008com wrote:
GP40MC1118 wrote:The only moves to and from the Watertown Branch this month were;

2/01 BO-1 out light engine, back with 4 empties.

2/09 BO-1 out with 4 loads, back to Somerville lite engine.

2/10 AY-Relief down with 4 loads, back to Ayer with a lite engine.

2/22 BO-1 brought out 4 empties to Somerville.

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I thought they got 3 loads a week?


They go back and forth between rail and truck delivery, so their rail service level is not consistant.
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Postby NellsChoo » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:14 pm

Perhaps Newlyweds is more to blame than Guilford? Maybe they look into truck and rail fees weekly! :wink:
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Postby Clem Brookster » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:45 pm

NellsChoo, why is Newlyweds more to blame than Guilford (Pan Am?) regarding the "Mexican standoff" that is happening in the once vibrant Watertown Branch?

Maybe those "Pat McGinnis Please Come Back" bumper stickers meant something!
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Postby b&m 1566 » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:23 am

Yeah I'm not so sure Newlyweds is to blame at all here. My best guess is given the fact that the track is in such deplorable conditions Pan Am most likely can only use the line when the conditions are right. If the ground is wet and soft or snow covered you can almost guarantee that there will be no train heading to Newlyweds. Now you get about 2 or 3 weeks of dry weather with minimum rain or a nice week of below freezing weather to freeze the ground and then the track may be a little bit more stable to get a train down to Newlyweds.
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