LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:29 am

Speaking of dirty dirt traffic...are they still doing carloads for site remediation in Orrington on the Bucksport Branch? Or any others? Wondering how much is left of their other slate of similar one-off jobs on the system before the dirt gons start to disappear back from whence they came.
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby BM6569 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:15 am

Yes on Orrington
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby BandA » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:46 pm

I may have said this before, but it is kinda funny that cleaning up the contamination is just moving the dirty dirt to another less valuable zipcode, to a "secured landfill(s)". Little or nothing is actually being cleaned. Entropy continues to increase...
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:12 pm

The "Dirty Dirt" gets "cremated"(burned up) before put in a lined Landfill in the middle of nowhere.
There's 1 "Haz-Mat" Landfill off the UP called "LASCA" near Serra Blanca Tx.
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby johnpbarlow » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:48 am

Apparently Everett dirty dirt shipments are not yet finished but the routing has changed. According to posting (with a photo) on the CSX Boston and Albany Yahoo forum, dirt is being trucked from Everett to what remains of Beacon Park yard where CSX is loading it into gons to ship west ultimately on Q437 out of Framingham:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CSX-Boston-Line/conversations/messages/8393

Unrelated to Pan Am, some gons will also be loaded with New Bedford dredging for shipment west.
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby fogg1703 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:55 pm

johnpbarlow wrote:Unrelated to Pan Am, some gons will also be loaded with New Bedford dredging for shipment west.


More accurately they are returning to New Bedford. The gons from New Bedford weren't being used due to Rt 18 bridge construction and winter hiatus and were pressed into Everett service. Dredge rail service resumed 2 weeks ago in New Bedford with the reopening of the Rt 18 bridge.
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby GP40MC1118 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:48 am

Despite reports the PCB business is back, nothing is happening at the EPA Dewatering Facility on
Melville Blvd. As far as I know. Have not been by there, but a friend did and there's no trackmobile
spotted nor cars in the mini-yard.

Gondolas are returning to NB and being held in their usual spot in the main yard.

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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby fogg1703 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:47 am

GP40MC1118 wrote:Despite reports the PCB business is back, nothing is happening at the EPA Dewatering Facility on
Melville Blvd. As far as I know. Have not been by there, but a friend did and there's no trackmobile
spotted nor cars in the mini-yard.


I apologize as I was getting my info from this SouthCoast Today article:

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/news/201 ... to-service

I tend to believe a boots on the ground report as opposed to a newspaper article. It does seem a little early for shipments.
Here is a fair use quote:

NEW BEDFORD — If the new railroad bridge over Route 18 just north of downtown looks finished, that's because it nearly is.

For several weeks now, according to South Coast Rail project manager Jean Fox, the Massachusetts Coastal Railroad, based in Hyannis, has been taking freight cars off the North Terminal and shipping them, containing dredged spoils from the Superfund PCB project, to disposal sites out of state.


P. Christopher Podgurski, president and CEO of Mass. Coastal, said that there are currently two clients: The Superfund cleanup of harbor PCBs, and Maritime Terminal.

The PCB rail cars are taking sludge to a Michigan landfill, Podgursky said. Maritime Terminal is shipping fish to the West Coast.

Rail traffic to the waterfront has been impossible since spring of 2015 as the old bridge was removed and the new one built. And while early estimates put the completion date as of mid-2016, the actual job took several months longer.

Fox told The Standard-Times that while trains are using the bridge, some work from the punch list needs to be done. That, she said, involves some cosmetic work that the city wanted to see done, and some issues involving utilities.

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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby Z31SPL » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:05 am

So does that mean Pan Am has been cut out of the deal
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby Safetee » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:00 am

Pan Am never was in New Bedford deal.
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby johnpbarlow » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:31 am

Z31SPL wrote:So does that mean Pan Am has been cut out of the deal


Re:Everett dirty dirt, that is what was inferred by what I read on another railfan forum: A fleet of trucks brings the dirt to Beacon Park from Everett for CSX to haul to Selkirk and beyond. I haven't seen any other confirmation though.
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby NYC27 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:26 pm

Erroneous news report. The dirt at Beacon Park is from the clean up of the rail yard and adjacent warehouse area for Harvard.
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby johnpbarlow » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:42 am

This is the text of what I read at the CSX Boston and Albany Yahoo forum on March 8- it's quite detailed and seems plausible to me:

Contaminated dirt piled high trucked over from the Wynn Casino construction sight in Everett, MA. is being stockpiled in the Farm Yard where gondolas will soon be brought in to start hauling the product back to Framingham, MA by local B721 then taken west by Q437. If all goes as planned look for this to begin next week. The contract to haul the dirty dirt was previously held by PAR and hauled by their LOSA-SALO job.

At Framingham the gondolas have began to arrive from the west. Some of these will be sent to New Bedford by way of B725 to B726. B726 sets them off at Cotley for New Bedford where the dredging will be loaded then returned to Framingham. If anything, this would give Q437 and Q436 more cars to move, even temporarily.

The eighteen wheelers hauling from Everett to Allston are from the W.L.French Trucking of N.Billerica, MA coming in caravans of 5 or more at a time into Beacon's entrance by the Doubletree Hotel, then dropping the loads in an area between four of the remaining in service stub tracks in the "Farm".


So maybe the dirty dirt truck convoys from Everett haven't started yet ...

Forum URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CSX-Boston-Line/conversations/messages/8393
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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby GP40MC1118 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:54 am

B721 brought at least 18 gondolas to Beacon Park this past Sunday.

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Re: LOSA Returns - Dirty Dirt

Postby newpylong » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:54 am

I was told this was a planned switch so they could use the tracks for inbound construction materials, but who knows.
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