Sappi Mills

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Sappi Mills

Postby riffian » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:21 pm

A two part question for those in the know. Is the Sappi Skowhegan mill Panam's largest customer by carloadings? The Sappi mill at Westbrook, which I gather produces laminates of some kind, appears to be a minimal rail customer. Inbound loads of plastic pellets only?
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby scb1021 » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:48 pm

The Sappi Westbrook mill produces release paper - it's reusable textured paper that is used for imprinting textures onto materials. The paper can then be reused many times for the same process. Loads are received every two to three weeks on average, normally consisting of around 5 to 15 cars. There's normally some slurry cars (calcium carbonate) and TiO2 cars, both used for glossy papers.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby S1f3432 » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:16 pm

Sappi in Westbrook uses market pulp to feed one paper machine with the paper going to several small coaters
to produce a release paper used in plastic molding operations. One example I was told about by an employee
was the krinkled surface of automobile dashboards. The lab has developed a product that resembles vinyl and
several years ago there was a display case with soccer balls, handbags and other items produced with this product,
but I don't know how much actual use it gets. The inbound tank cars are coatings for the paper. The pulp mill was
demolished years ago and I doubt anything has shipped by rail since they stopped making printing paper.

The Hinkley mill may very well be the largest shipper but Jay would also be a contender- I don't have access to
traffic statistics.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby gokeefe » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:41 pm

Verso in Jay is far and away the largest paper mill in Maine. I base that statement on data regarding waste water discharges which Jay does more of, by a lot, than any other.

That being the case I would imagine that RUPO/PORU is probably mostly traffic from Jay. Unlike other mills Jay/Rumford still has a local job operating with multiple shifts, unheard of anywhere else on PAR in Maine outside of Rigby Yard.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby BostonUrbEx » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:08 am

The Sappi mill in Hinckley has it's own switchers, but they're third party contractors. Also, Rileys may be the largest mill and have the largest production line, but they may not necessarily be shipping the most carloads on PAR. I don't know which it is, but I would say either Rileys or Hinckley as well.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby roberttosh » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:30 am

At one time Jay produced the most tons in Maine if not the country, but for some reason I think Sappi at Shawmut has surpassed them.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby CN9634 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:34 am

gokeefe wrote:Verso in Jay is far and away the largest paper mill in Maine. I base that statement on data regarding waste water discharges which Jay does more of, by a lot, than any other.

That being the case I would imagine that RUPO/PORU is probably mostly traffic from Jay. Unlike other mills Jay/Rumford still has a local job operating with multiple shifts, unheard of anywhere else on PAR in Maine outside of Rigby Yard.


Must have forgotten about Waterville yard... Also since Sappi is so close to Waterville they likely don't need to do much but shuttle cars from mill to yard. Also Sappi has a third party rail contractor who switches 24/7 at the mill at least with two crews
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby roberttosh » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:28 pm

They used to run a POSD right to the mill but as CN9634 pointed out probably just easier to run locals up from Waterville.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby highrail » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:18 pm

Is the mill operation in Jay visible from the public streets? I was looking at the satellite map and it looks kind of iffy to get shots of the rail action, but hoping that someone here will know better. Thanks!

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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby KSmitty » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:11 pm

highrail wrote:Is the mill operation in Jay visible from the public streets? I was looking at the satellite map and it looks kind of iffy to get shots of the rail action, but hoping that someone here will know better. Thanks!

Steve

Nope! Cant really see any of the switchers, but when they make setoffs and pickups the switchers/road jobs are visible for moments.

If you really want to watch mill switchers, I would recomend RU-1 in Rumford. The mill is easily visible from 2.5 sides, including a bridge with broad sidewalks on both sides that crosses over between the yard and the mill yard.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby highrail » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:09 pm

Thanks ksmitty.. Rumford it will be! I caught the tail end of operation at the Berlin mills ans was shocked about a year later when everything disappeared.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby WN&P » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:32 pm

http://bangordailynews.com/2015/07/29/business/madison-paper-verso-win-duties-on-canadian-paper-imports/

not necessarily on topic, but close!

Maybe import duties on Canadian paper will cause an uptick at maine mills
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby gokeefe » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:31 pm

Seems quite likely. Nice timing going in to a strengthening economy.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby WN&P » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:51 am

Of course LePage has to blow the steampipe about it risking workers jobs with Catalyst in Rumford. If they own mills on both sides of the border and duties shift production between one mill to the other is that really going to bother them. They are still making revenue, just from a different location.
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Re: Sappi Mills

Postby BostonUrbEx » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:19 pm

Does the Madison mill transload in Waterville? Or just trucking?
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