Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby KSmitty » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:53 pm

South Portland has say over the stationary storage facilities. But anything with wheels is covered by the STB. Pan Am can store as much LP as they want in Rigby, as long as its in rail cars. They can also transload LP from railcar to truck, as long as no freestanding infrastructure is built on the property. They cannot store LP on site in ground based tanks. This is covered by zoning laws, and not protected by the STB.


Isn't the facility NGL is looking to build a: 30,000 gallon storage tank and appropriate piping, compressors, pumps and fire suppression?
Doesn't a single rail car carry roughly 33,000 gallons?
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby newpylong » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:08 pm

500,000 gallon facility in the article I read. Zoning allows for 70K.
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby BM6569 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:54 am

Well the tank is going to be small (and within in the zoning laws). The total gallons increases to 500K when the loaded railcars sitting on the siding is factored in.
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby newpylong » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:45 am

Oh ok my bad. Then the opponents don't have a leg to stand on.
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby YamaOfParadise » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:36 pm

They don't as-of-now, which is why they wanted the moratorium to give them enough time to pass new regs to block out NGL.
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby BM6569 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:50 pm

Here we go. Looks like SoPo is gearing up to fight PAR to prevent them from having any type of propane operation on their property.

"Councilors Brad Fox and Eben Rose pleaded for the citizen-drafted proposal, saying that it was drafted to be able to fight Pan Am if it tried to establish a propane facility at Rigby Yard. Specifically, the councilors said they want to challenge often-upheld railroad pre-emption laws before the federal Surface Transportation Board.

“I think we have a chance,” Rose said.

When Mayor Tom Blake said he wasn’t “afraid of fighting the railroad,” Morgan said taxpayers might not support spending an estimated $500,000 or more in legal fees to take on that battle."

Then in the comments section:

"The Rigby Yard is a 200+ acre site , now sitting pretty much dormant ."

http://www.pressherald.com/2016/02/01/s ... challenge/
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby gokeefe » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:55 pm

Speechless.........

Some attorney is going to bank some major billable hours on this one.

And .... at the end of the day they are still going to lose.
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby newpylong » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:08 pm

Not a shot. Tax payers get the shaft.
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby YamaOfParadise » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:58 pm

Yeah, I don't imagine they'll fare much better than Grafton (MA) did if they're fighting PAR itself building and operating a propane transload in Rigby (as I previously talked about). I doubt NGL is going to be moving to Rigby (or SoPo at all) at this rate, though. Wonder if they're more competent than Grafton and will actually fill out their legal filings properly :wink:
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby eustis22 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:33 am

Bucksport?
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby MEC407 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:42 am

Not exactly ideal for a terminal that's meant to serve Cumberland and York counties. :wink:
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby gokeefe » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:36 pm

eustis22 wrote:Bucksport?


Sounds like somewhere off the Biddeford Industrial track to me.
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby Cowford » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:48 pm

Remind me again why Maine ranks as the worst state in the nation in which to do business?
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Re: Rigby Yard — Activity, Sightings, and General Discussion

Postby newpylong » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:39 pm

That has absolutely nothing to do with this. This is simply a classic case of New England nimbyism. There are other states that rank high to do business in, you just can't be doing the type of business they don't want (like this.)
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