Pan Am Coal Trains

Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby eustis22 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:36 am

> Perhaps out next President will have a better appreciation for the almost eternal supply of coal our country has.

um, what? You think Clinton is going to order utilities to use dirtier and more expensive goal instead of natural gas? Why do you hate capitalism?
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby newpylong » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:14 am

FYI - not a big coal fan but taxing something (in this case fossils fuels/coal) to the point that they cannot be competitive in an "open" market is the opposite of Capitalism.
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby eustis22 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:18 am

except for the fact that we have no carbon tax that's almost spot on.

What tax is it you think coal pays that natural gas doesn't?
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby newpylong » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:54 am

It does not have to be a "tax", it just has to be something that artificially alters the playing field like a tax. Currently, the Mercury and Air Toxics Standard is one such law. In the future, the Clean Power Plan, etc. Coal plants that have already spent millions adding environmental control equipment will again either need to spend more or stop generating. Combined with the declining price of natural gas it is uneconomical for many coal plants to continue operating.

Again, I am not fan of coal, but we need to call a spade a spade.
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby eustis22 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:09 pm

OR it could be a worldwide reduction in coal usage which has absolutely nothing to do with US tax policy. Most coal plants AVOIDED the extra expense of scrubbers by using Wyoming coal vs eastern coal as it was lower in sulphur, thus requiring less..well..scrubbing..... But Wyoming coal production is off 30% from 2015. Vietnam is opting to not use coal at all, and China is converting their coal burners to natural gas.

Feel free to blame Obama first, though. Next year you can blame Clinton.
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:17 pm

What does this have to do with Bow? Or prospective PAR coal traffic when there is only one coal-fired plant on the whole damn railroad that only consumes its coal fast enough for monthly deliveries? Does any political argument about coal policy change a single thing about the volume of coal PAR handles to its one and only coal customer?
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby eustis22 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:28 am

about as much as any industry using rail does with the actual railroad that services it, I'd say. ymmv
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby BowdoinStation » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:11 pm

Well, I guess I can admit to putting out information in error.. In a recent post, I mentioned that NHB-07 was going to be it for Coal Trains in Bow for a long while.. I got that info from what I consider a credible source. However, things do change, andl in that time, NHB-08. a Limestone train have been through Bow, and currently NHB-09 is residing on the World Famous Perini Siding in Bow with a sharp SD70ACU, a former SD9043MAC "Big Mac" on the southern lead.
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby newpylong » Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:48 am

Another loaded coal has come onto the railroad yesterday.
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby johnpbarlow » Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:09 pm

And yet another 532 coal train just arrived at Binghamton mid-day today after a struggle up Clarks Summit when one if its 4 engines failed this morning. I believe it got an assist from 11Z's power.
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby BowdoinStation » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:04 am

The 10th Loaded Coal Train Power is currently stored on the Perini Siding in Bow, after arriving in Bow on Saturday (9/3) afternoon. The 11th Loaded Coal Train is starting it's trek eastward..
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby newpylong » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:55 am

Another coal train by Shelburne Falls
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:51 am

Have they increased power output all of a sudden because of the hot summer, or is this just mass-refilling the coal pile to the max in one blitz so they don't have to schedule any coal trains till winter? This is a pretty jarring and sudden change in the delivery spacing.
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby doublestack » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:58 am

It's called purchase all the coal you can now, because if the wrong person becomes the next POTUS, there won't be any more mining done in this country.
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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Postby CN9634 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:11 am

Who cares, industry changes, railroads adapt and life moves on. Besides, my opinion of coal going away is optimistic towards our environment, which we happen to only have 1 of.
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