Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby gokeefe » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:22 am

A lot of lumber. And as I recall that's been going on since the beginning.
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby bostontrainguy » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:35 am

Whatever happened to all that talk about Torrefied wood? I believe there is a market in Europe for it.
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby BandA » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:19 pm

newpylong wrote:...The obvious question is - why is an owner who is already so wealthy keeping something that contributes very little to their bottom line, especially if they are not willing to run it like a real railroad? There are scores of similar size operations throughout the country that are run smoother, have a better physical plant, and are financially viable. They saw their bread and butter traffic of the past 100 years drying up ahead of the implosion and were able to adapt and grow new traffic. ...
My guess is estate planning. Isn't Mr Mellon rather elderly? If he sold PAR he'd have to pay capital gains tax (presumably), then turn around within a few years and his heirs would have to pay inheritance tax. Better to pay just one tax?
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby johnpbarlow » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:40 am

So it looks like Fryeburg voters may have removed themselves from the competition for site of a new Poland Springs bottling plant:

https://www.conwaydailysun.com/news/local/fryeburg-voters-overwhelmingly-reject-land-sale-tif/article_75f245ee-b01f-11e7-b629-03991d34994f.html
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby gokeefe » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:24 pm

Bad news for Poland Spring in Fryeburg. Good news for Lincoln ....
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby BM6569 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:21 pm

Haven't heard anything about Rumford lately
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby gokeefe » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:41 pm

Still in the running as best I can tell ...
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby b&m 1566 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:02 am

30% voter turn out!!! That tells me the rest of the voters didn't give a rats *** one way or the other.
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby newpylong » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:09 am

That's high for most local elections, sadly.
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby MEC407 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:56 am

That's extremely high for a local election in an off-year, and phenomenally high for a special election taking place on a day other than the official Election Day in November. Fryeburg should be proud of having such a high turnout. There are many cities and towns around the country that don't reach 30% voter turnout even during big elections.
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby gokeefe » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:21 am

b&m 1566 wrote:30% voter turn out!!! That tells me the rest of the voters didn't give a rats *** one way or the other.


The article as written actually spent quite a few paragraphs addressing exactly this issue. They were able to conclusively prove in my eyes at least that the interest from voters was unusually high for a special election.
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby Hux » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:06 pm

Nestle's tapping aquifers in Ontario and Quebec raised quite a fuss with locals and generated a lot of negative press. Probably a safe bet that the Fryeburgites became well aware of the sentiments of our northern neighbors and were stirred into action.
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby Mikejf » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:10 pm

No, they still remember loosing the fight before, when they (PS) wanted a well.
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby MEC407 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:18 am

Maine had a very severe drought this summer. We had one last summer, too. Lots of homeowners with private wells have had to have new wells drilled, or have had to spend big bucks on bottled water. That's just one of several compelling reasons why the folks in Fryeburg might've voted against the proposal.
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Re: Portland Waterfront Rail Ops (Yard 8, Intermodal, etc)

Postby BM6569 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:49 pm

Portland's question #2 about zoning was voted down on Tuesday. That's good news for the Americold plans
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