CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby DogBert » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:11 pm

Saw a single gp38-2 going over hell gate around 4pm last friday, queens bound. Not sure what that was about...
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby ccutler » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:23 pm

A few things. Just saw the incoming freight stopped below the third avenue bridge. It includes a continuous welded rail load. Also,I have not seen any deliveries to the potato place in Mount Vernon in a while, and loads to the warehouses in the Bronx seem to be down. I guess we are seeing more examples of precision truck marketing
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:50 pm

Have there been any problems with the trash trains or getting empty trash cars back for reloading?
Has the City's Sanitation Dept or Waste Management been having problems with CSX?
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby gregorygrice » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:47 pm

Nope
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby ccutler » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:37 am

I am pleased to hear that CSX hasn't had problems hauling the trash out. That problem would be a big mess! The sewage sludge hauling operation appears to have plenty of brown container cars stored at Oak Point. At one point over the summer, it looked like they were running dangerously low on railcars. But that didn't seem to last more than a few weeks.

I wish the transition to "precision railroading" were more "precise."
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby DogBert » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:37 am

How much stone is CSX hauling now? I've caught a few Saturday morning runs this last month and they've all had a cut of at least a half dozen stone cars. Is this traffic in addition to P&W's, or has it taken from theirs? I tried a few times to catch P&W late in the day Fridays, haven't seen a thing since this spring.

I'd say 3 out of 4 of the last fresh pond jobs I've seen all had 100 or so cars.
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby gregorygrice » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:02 am

The only stone CSX transports is stone for Brookhaven Rail Terminal. Nothing was taken from P&W. P&W still brings in anywhere from 50 to 91 stone every other day.
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:04 pm

So far,so good on the trash trains, has there been any shift of general freight interchange away from CSX to NJNY's car float operation?
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby freightguy » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:58 am

Ccutler,

ACE/Endico in Mount Vernon West was slow for a bit now. However there was a car on spot in the last two weeks, but usually got serviced a few times a week. Not sure why it has slowed down so much. The stone guy at Brookhaven rail has a fleet of 100 cars and it comes from a quarry upstate. Very active customer for BRT.
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby DogBert » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:01 pm

Nice to hear that stone at BRT is new. Back when CP ran down here they seemed to get some of P&W's traffic, but that ended around the time they entered the haulage agreement with csx.
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby ccutler » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:15 am

Rode by the yard this morning. all the damaged box cars have been scrapped and removed. A long-unused track next to Jetro was being removed...the sludge transfer facility is busy as ever and isn't affected. There were six boxcars spotted at the warehouse next to Jetro.
It appears that the overnight train from Selkirk didn't arrive yet, or if it did, it was very short. Several long cuts of what looked like outgoing cars from Oak Point area industries were ready to be taken up to Selkirk. In the middle of the yard was a long cut of white refrigerated cars. I could not see the truck springs to try to guage if they were loads or empties--not that I good at that anyway. At 8:15, the transfer run from NYAR was arriving, with four SD units and a fairly long train. It looks like the next train up to Selkirk will be a long one.
Thanks everyone for your updates.
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Re: CSX-Oak Point/Fremont

Postby ccutler » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:01 pm

I went by the Potato shipper near West Vernon and the lumber yard in the Bronx and neither had any loads. I am inferring that most of that business switched to trucks. I also read on a fb page that LA&L upstate NY has switched almost all of its interchange from CSX to R&S/NS because of unreliable service. So I am inferring the EHH doesn't care about the small shipper. Somehow G&W made billions of dollars in market cap from serving the small shippers, NS does fine with them, yet EHH can't figure out how to serve them. Calling it "precision" doesn't make it precise, much less professional.
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