Little mishap in The Bronx

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Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby TheBoyFromNewYorkCity » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:50 am

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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby dbperry » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:12 pm

Good overhead picture here showing how it fouled the NEC mainline:

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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby ccutler » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:09 pm

...not one of Oak Point's finer moments...
I am amazed that the catenary beam didn't get hit.
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby YamaOfParadise » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:25 pm

ccutler wrote:I am amazed that the catenary beam didn't get hit.


I was marveling at that at well, the cars ended up settling down to either side of it.

And, at the very least, there's only one car that fouled the NEC itself, and by falling over on its side onto it. I imagine that's much easier at repairing than the any of the other leads into Oak Point got, considering the carts dragged right across each. Also good it wasn't a garbage train!
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby Backshophoss » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:41 pm

Amtrak's track dept is unhappy with CSX, 1 car fouling the 1 of the Hellgate mains. :(
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby Noel Weaver » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:55 pm

Backshophoss wrote:Amtrak's track dept is unhappy with CSX, 1 car fouling the 1 of the Hellgate mains. :(


I would imagine it is more than just the track department is unhappy with CSX over this one.
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby twropr » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:54 pm


I remember that there was a similar incident that tied up Amtrak on the Sunday after Thanksgiving in 2001. The derailment knocked out a cat pole and CSX provided a pair of engines to pull the Amtraks thru the deenergized section.
Does anyone remember about when the second incident was where Oak Point crews derailed and delayed Amtrak?
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby Teutobergerwald » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:42 pm

A BX local, or a Fresh Pond-bound train for New York & Atlantic ?????
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby DogBert » Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:59 am

They recently did some trackwork around those switches if I recall right.

What usually causes cars to cars to pile up like that? Did they back into a cut of cars too hard? The photos remind me of what you'd typically see in a head on collision.
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby ccutler » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:30 am

Maybe someone who knows what happened will anonymously chime in here ;-)
I've never seen CSX switching cars over 10mph there, and usually much slower. Some of the track is, well, yard track that, next to the NE Corridor, should be shown more respect by CSX infrastructure planners. They just had another derailment in that same area a few months ago.
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby mmi16 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:40 pm

DogBert wrote:They recently did some trackwork around those switches if I recall right.

What usually causes cars to cars to pile up like that? Did they back into a cut of cars too hard? The photos remind me of what you'd typically see in a head on collision.


Momentum - something stops solidly and suddenly, and all the cars behind begin to accordion to dissipate the kinetic energy that the balance of the moving cars have.
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby Train2009 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:19 pm

Teutobergerwald wrote:A BX local, or a Fresh Pond-bound train for New York & Atlantic ?????


Transfer train from Fresh Pound to Oak Point.
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby ccutler » Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:28 pm

some photos from today...the area is cleaned up, tracks appear operational, and Amtrak running
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby ccutler » Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:30 pm

two more...
I don't think the rails are from the derailment.
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Re: Little mishap in The Bronx

Postby Noel Weaver » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:55 pm

Old main line tracks in this area were at one time a part of the mainline with freight train speeds of 45 MPH and we did 45 through there too making a run for the bridge. After the Virginian Electrics came we did not have to make the run for the bridge, these motors would pull all outdoors. It sounds to me like the freight tracks in this area might need some up-grading to better standards.
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