NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby atsf sp » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:07 pm

Coal train on which line?
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby manheimrails » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:16 am

Anyone know if its on the Mon Line? I am going to school at Cal U and am planning on going out to west brownsville tomorrow for a little while. Any chance I'll see it?
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby waldwickrailfan » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:30 am

atsf sp wrote:Coal train on which line?

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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby atsf sp » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:22 pm

I'm hoping the Mon line cause im at school in Pittsburgh but it isnt easy for me to get to the pittsburgh line but easy for me to get to watch the mon line right outside my dorm.
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby markyk » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:10 pm

I don't think it has left Conway yet.....It is supposed to be getting software installed before it gets assigned to any train
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby waldwickrailfan » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:01 am

markyk wrote:I don't think it has left Conway yet.....It is supposed to be getting software installed before it gets assigned to any train

It wasnt leading, or online. It could have been there in case they needed it. I dont know if it is in Conway, I havent heard anything about 8098 since late Sunday.
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby markyk » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:00 pm

Left conway (pittsburgh) this morning heading west on Coal Train 578...

Was by New Brighton PA just before 2pm.....

will go west then south to Columbus then south then east to Lamberts Point VA......weird routing indeed
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby ns3010 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:45 pm

Correct, it did not leave Conway until this morning on 578. It was first out on the consist with 8106, 8107, 8110, 1023, and 1030 trailing.
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby waldwickrailfan » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:26 pm

The coal will make it black, just like Chattanooga likes it. All ES44AC's will stay in the coal fields, esspecially the ones that arent black and white. The only engine we may see is Penn Central, maybe. NS has already proven that these things will be coal engines, good luck catching any of these elsewhere...
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby ns3010 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:13 pm

waldwickrailfan wrote:The coal will make it black, just like Chattanooga likes it. All ES44AC's will stay in the coal fields, esspecially the ones that arent black and white. The only engine we may see is Penn Central, maybe. NS has already proven that these things will be coal engines, good luck catching any of these elsewhere...


Why would the PC unit be treated any differently? Aside from paint, it will be no different from any of the other SD70ACe's. IF (hypothetically speaking), NS wanted to get all of the engines dirty in coal service (and no railroad takes pride in dirty engines, especially ones that were specially painted as a PR move), the original color wouldn't stop them...

Not to mention that NS has stated (on multiple occasions) that they plan to operate them systemwide. Yes, there's a possibility that they just said that, but I doubt it. Just because the first run of the first heritage unit was a coal run does not mean that they'll run as slaves in the coalfields never to see the light of day for the next ten years. While there may be "just a chance" that it'll escape to other parts of the system once or twice, there's also "just a chance" that it coincidentally made its first run on a coal train...



Back to the 8098... It seems there's already been a decent coverage from the railfan community. Can't wait till it comes out this way!
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby waldwickrailfan » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:00 pm

ns3010 wrote:
waldwickrailfan wrote:The coal will make it black, just like Chattanooga likes it. All ES44AC's will stay in the coal fields, esspecially the ones that arent black and white. The only engine we may see is Penn Central, maybe. NS has already proven that these things will be coal engines, good luck catching any of these elsewhere...


Why would the PC unit be treated any differently? Aside from paint, it will be no different from any of the other SD70ACe's. IF (hypothetically speaking), NS wanted to get all of the engines dirty in coal service (and no railroad takes pride in dirty engines, especially ones that were specially painted as a PR move), the original color wouldn't stop them...

Not to mention that NS has stated (on multiple occasions) that they plan to operate them systemwide. Yes, there's a possibility that they just said that, but I doubt it. Just because the first run of the first heritage unit was a coal run does not mean that they'll run as slaves in the coalfields never to see the light of day for the next ten years. While there may be "just a chance" that it'll escape to other parts of the system once or twice, there's also "just a chance" that it coincidentally made its first run on a coal train...



Back to the 8098... It seems there's already been a decent coverage from the railfan community. Can't wait till it comes out this way!


I think they will travel the system, but they will never make it to NJ. All I see are Dash 9's and GP38-2's. except for good ol' CSX, they run everything on every line. Wish NS would do that more often... Anyway I heard a rumor that CR and Southern unit will be on 69Q (Chicago-Sewaren,NJ) next week. I hope this is true.
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby ns3010 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:20 am

waldwickrailfan wrote:
ns3010 wrote:
waldwickrailfan wrote:The coal will make it black, just like Chattanooga likes it. All ES44AC's will stay in the coal fields, esspecially the ones that arent black and white. The only engine we may see is Penn Central, maybe. NS has already proven that these things will be coal engines, good luck catching any of these elsewhere...


Why would the PC unit be treated any differently? Aside from paint, it will be no different from any of the other SD70ACe's. IF (hypothetically speaking), NS wanted to get all of the engines dirty in coal service (and no railroad takes pride in dirty engines, especially ones that were specially painted as a PR move), the original color wouldn't stop them...

Not to mention that NS has stated (on multiple occasions) that they plan to operate them systemwide. Yes, there's a possibility that they just said that, but I doubt it. Just because the first run of the first heritage unit was a coal run does not mean that they'll run as slaves in the coalfields never to see the light of day for the next ten years. While there may be "just a chance" that it'll escape to other parts of the system once or twice, there's also "just a chance" that it coincidentally made its first run on a coal train...



Back to the 8098... It seems there's already been a decent coverage from the railfan community. Can't wait till it comes out this way!


I think they will travel the system, but they will never make it to NJ. All I see are Dash 9's and GP38-2's. except for good ol' CSX, they run everything on every line. Wish NS would do that more often... Anyway I heard a rumor that CR and Southern unit will be on 69Q (Chicago-Sewaren,NJ) next week. I hope this is true.


While you bring up a valid point on the Dash 9's, don't forget that they make up a massive portion of NS's road fleet, which is why we see such a high number of them proportionate to other road units. While the CW40-9's predominate, I have seen a fair share of EMD road power (including SD60's, SD70's, standard Dash 8's, etc.) in my limited Lehigh Line experiences. The Dash 9's are obviously the most common power, but there is plenty of other road power that comes out this way. Give it time, and you won't be disappointed :-)

Back again to the 8098, it'd be nice if it [they] did come through Jersey soon, preferably during spring break ;-)
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby waldwickrailfan » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:26 am

As long as it comes Tuesday April 10th through Bound Brook, i'll be happy, and foaming. lol
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby glennk419 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:50 pm

Beautiful job. I'll bet the boys at Altoona had very little trouble pulling this one off.
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Re: NS 8098- Conrail Heritage ES44AC

Postby airman00 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:52 pm

well, once in a blue moon I've seen NS black engines passing by on the CSX river line. As I understand it power sharing is routine on railroads? So perhaps ONE of these heritage units may someday pass thru northern NJ. :)
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