Who owned/operated Sharks (Baldwin RF-16)?

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Postby PRSL1972 » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:37 am

DOES ANY ONE HAVE ANY PICS. MAYBE A DONATION DRIVE SHOULD BE ORGINIZED.
For what I have been seeing the direction of NJT is going which isn't great it should be disbanded and revert back to public service and rail to DOT. This will ensure all high paid brain dead people are weeded out!!!
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Postby uhaul » Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:28 am

So, has anything worth writing home about occured since 2006?

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Postby Komachi » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:14 am

All's quiet on the eastern front. As it has been and as it shall be for the forseeable future.
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Re: Are any Sharks left?

Postby atsf sp » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:32 pm

Why were no other sharks kept in surviving? I think these are great looking engines and I wish there were more. Hope to see these go to a museum. I would love to see them.
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Re: Who owned/operated Sharks (Baldwin RF-16)?

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Re: Who owned/operated Sharks (Baldwin RF-16)?

Postby hankadam » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:54 am

Just Published = BALDWIN LOCOMOTIVES by Brian Solomon. Stunning photo of a Shark Nose on the cover, but there is a lot more: hundreds of photos from the 1850's to 1956, many never before published. Also comprehensive narrative by Solomon follows the design and development of Baldwin locomotives from the earliest steam models through the company's final moments, including some ideas that didn't quite catch on. Now then, when the Baldwin-Hamilton Company was going out of business, in the summer of 1971, Escanaba & Lake Superior was the primary customer. John Larkin, personally, talked to me about available parts, issued purchase orders, and paid cash, promptly. What a way to close down our renewal parts operations! All of the parts he originally purchased were new and unused = pistons, liners, cylinder heads and everything in between. However, as we were winding down, we had a goodly supply of "used" parts that were prime candidates for rebuilding. Rather than see these "rare" hunks of steel go to waste I decided to give them to E & LS. Cylinder liners, in good shape on the exterior, could be easily honed and re-chromed, and give years of faithful service. Bed plates could be rebuilt, by welding the bores, machining, and scraping to finished dimensions. Fred Cave was still alive then and Mr. Larkin would ask him to come up for a visit, for a "working" vacation. They treated him like royalty, which he, of course, was with his intimate and detailed knowledge of the Baldwin Diesel engine (John Kirkland insisted on capitalizing the "D" in Diesel and I have always followed his meticulous advice) E & LE had a large fleet of Baldwins, operating, profitably, on a daily basis, so with Fred Cave's help they were rebuilt, and rebuilt again, with our parts, both new and available for reuse. We even gave away all of our applicable gaskets, rather than throw them into the trash. Larkin, and I talked briefly about the Shark Nose engines, but he was generally elusive. I don't know about the vandalism, but the frames and sides were badly rusted = that alone would be a major job to restore. Happy memories from exactly 19 years ago, at this same time of year. BH officially closed on September 1, 1991 and we refused to accept any orders, at all, at all, at all! THE END. All the best, Hank Rentschler
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Postby daylight4449 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:16 am



was this before or after the locomotives got "jacked" and the so called "railfans" broke in and stole the manuals? if anything, this isn't how railfans should opperate for christs sake!
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Re: Who owned/operated Sharks (Baldwin RF-16)?

Postby mcgrath618 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:18 am

A significant update since the last reply to this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledinto ... h=84a3ff20
https://i.redditmedia.com/UeHTNLm7z-nfA ... 9a9d3fb60f

These things are still alive, but dying slowly.
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Re: Who owned/operated Sharks (Baldwin RF-16)?

Postby scottychaos » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:02 pm

mcgrath618 wrote:A significant update since the last reply to this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledinto ... h=84a3ff20
https://i.redditmedia.com/UeHTNLm7z-nfA ... 9a9d3fb60f

These things are still alive, but dying slowly.


Thats not really a "significate update"..
all its saying is: "they have been there for 30 years, they are still there, nothing has changed, except someone got a new photo" ;)

and IMO its not accurate to say they are "dying slowly"..
they are in a state of stasis. as long as they continue to be under a roof, they will be fine, there is no meaningful change taking place with them physically.
IMO its quite likely that some museum will get them, eventually..there is just one person who wants to keep them there, it is well known he doesnt want to see them scrapped. It is believed they will move when he no longer has any say in the matter..

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Re: Who owned/operated Sharks (Baldwin RF-16)?

Postby mcgrath618 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:23 pm

I mean the fact that they are still there is an update; many thought they were scrapped long ago
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