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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:29 pm

I'm pleased to have discovered this related topic regarding handling of Bakken Crude originating on the SOO Line. This was the first I was aware that a part of the oil field is served by a Canadian Pacific line. It is of no surprise such is being handled to a Canadian maritime port.

Mr. Jolin, thank you very much for choosing to re register using your given name; your photography is, in a word, superb.
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby cpr2816 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:02 am

Hello all,

MMA 606 got 5 loco whit 2 CP on the lead , CP5904 and CP 5991 , 3 others are MMA power
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby Frank Jolin » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:46 pm

Firstly, thanks for the feedbacks. Here are few shots of the third crude oil train #606-801 yesterday. A return of Canadian Pacific lcomotives on its former line.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/31145333@N ... hotostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31145333@N ... hotostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31145333@N ... hotostream
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 707&nseq=0


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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby Frank Jolin » Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:25 pm

Another load went through town (St Jean) last night with MM&A 5078 5026 CP 6049 ICE 6450 CP 5926 5928 MM&A 3609. An empty train entered Montreal early this morning with 137 cars.


http://steelribbon.smugmug.com/Trains/F ... b&lb=1&s=A


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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby gokeefe » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:25 pm

Frank Jolin wrote:Another load went through town (St Jean) last night with MM&A 5078 5026 CP 6049 ICE 6450 CP 5926 5928 MM&A 3609. An empty train entered Montreal early this morning with 137 cars.


http://steelribbon.smugmug.com/Trains/F ... b&lb=1&s=A


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It will be interesting to see how quickly MMA can get the damage in Brownville repaired. I was wondering when the next crude oil train was due and whether or not the damage to the MMA could have resulted in several extra trains running via PAR.
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby CN9634 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:51 pm

This last one had CP/DME power on it! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=36 ... tif_t=like
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby gokeefe » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:09 am

Has the storm damage had any impact or delay on crude oil movements?
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby mwhite » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:01 pm

I doubt it - the tank trains stayed on the CP (International of Maine) line the whole way, and to my knowledge this was unaffected. The damage was limited to the KI junction in Brownville Center. As of Saturday trains were again traveling on the Millinocket sub.
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby fogg1703 » Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:50 am

I'm sure Irving did expect some issues given the state of both the MMA and PAR lines in Central Maine which is why both routings have been utilized. While not causing any problems for the recent MMA train it does open ones eye to the under maintained trackage in Maine playing a large role in a global game especially if a couple of trains a week are heading for Irving.
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby Frank Jolin » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:48 pm

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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby CPF363 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:34 pm

Are oil trains still running over the MM&A or just Pan Am?
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby cpr2816 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:20 am

it's look a little quiet lately on the MMA on the Adirondack Sub.

Don't recall the last Oil train.

Today we only got the MMA810 St-Jean Turn and it was a night turn (normally run on day shift) .
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby KSmitty » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:10 am

CPF363 wrote:Are oil trains still running over the MM&A or just Pan Am?

I was under the impression the C39's were bought to help with the power shortage caused by the oil trains. If its been quiet don't give up on the service, Pan Am went almost 2 weeks without anything. There are still very limited amounts of trainsets available for crude service and turning them around takes time.
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby CN9634 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:36 pm

More oil runs and continues to run over the MMA than PAR. They run dediated oil trains about once or twice a week as well as oil comes in on general freight (unlike Pan Am)
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Re: Crude Oil movement via MMA

Postby gokeefe » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:20 pm

CN9634 wrote:More oil runs and continues to run over the MMA than PAR. They run dediated oil trains about once or twice a week as well as oil comes in on general freight (unlike Pan Am)


Just to clarify, you're indicating that MMA is regularly running oil trains, perhaps more often than PAR?
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