Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBSR)

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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby fromway » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:42 pm

Long line of oil cans sitting in Oakfield yard. Could not see if they are Irving's or some other carrier.
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby fromway » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:21 pm

Houlton Pioneer Times has an article about a collision last Wednesday night in Danforth between a freight train and a tractor-trailer hauling logs. Originally called in as a HazMat response, but was quickly changed to just a collision. The tractor struck the middle of the train and burst into flames. The sheriff said that the lights were working at the crossing at the time and it was unclear why the trucker did not stop. The drive was from Plaster Rock, NB, Canada. One box car left the rails and travelled 70 ft into brush. The conductor stated that they didn't know why they lost power but he walked back and found the truck in flames. Route 1 in Danforth was closed from 7:30PM until 6:30 AM the next day while everything was cleaned up. Every conceivable agency is investigating.
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby JB283 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:15 pm

Just watched video on youtube of CMQ & MNR both southbound from Millinoket to Brownville jct. I was wondering where does the traffic CMQ hauls south come from? Is it interchanged with MNR in Millinoket or do they still have customers they serve up that way? If not, why does CMQ bother to go up there at all since MNR could just bring it all the way to Brownville jct.?
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby KSmitty » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:32 am

Yes, MNR/CMQ interchange at Millinocket. EMRY/CMQ still interchange at Brownville. Ive heard that its the state and/or contractual interchange point. Whicheans if interchange isnt done there someone is paying to have it hauled up and down. That cost would likely be more than the cost of a crew, so CM&Q runs up.

CMQ still has a customer on the East Millinocket running track. There is an outfit loading logs out at the Hubers crossing at about mp2 or 3 on the East Millinocket. Believe these are going to Jackman for the mill there.
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby gokeefe » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:53 am

I amazed there's any activity in East Millinocket at all. At least there's something.
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby MECFAN » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:51 pm

Speaking of East Millenoocket is the mill still standing or has it been torn down and who owns whats left.
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby 690 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:59 pm

Yes, the mill at East Millinocket is still standing. The plan was to tear it down, and ship it out in scrap gons like the Bucksport mill, but it's been put on hold for now.
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Postby JB283 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:47 am

Is there maybe even a slight chance it could reopen?
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby gokeefe » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:40 pm

As long as it is still standing there's always a chance however remote.
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby gpp111 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:31 pm

Large sections of the East Millinocket mill have been demolished. The mill will never open again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV7m4O1xsAc
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby Zeke » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:29 am

Curious as to why it went out of business ?
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby gokeefe » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:21 pm

Crash in paper prices from low demand and foreign competition along with spike in energy prices from higher oil and electricity cost. The energy price spike hit them twice on both production and transportation.
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby riffian » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:40 pm

gpp111 wrote:Large sections of the East Millinocket mill have been demolished. The mill will never open again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV7m4O1xsAc

What a sad place....
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby gpp111 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:59 am

The mill specialized in newsprint and directory paper (yellow pages). The internet has had a big impact, newspaper circulation is in rapid decline, and yellow pages are non existent. Only the most efficient mills survive.
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Re: Maine Northern Railway (ex-MMA lines operated by EMR/NBS

Postby fogg1703 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:59 pm

gpp111 wrote:Only the most efficient mills survive.

Or as Twin River Paper has done, expanded and innovated their packaging and specialized technical papers products. And it seems of late, a good amount of their rail traffic is remaining in the US on MNR and not being sent over the bridge to CN.
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