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Madawaska Traffic

Postby riffian » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:34 am

Now that the dust has settled up north, who is getting the long haul traffic out of the mill? Is MN switching the mill and interchanging the traffic to the CN across the river? if so, I'm not sure what traffic the MN generates on the extreme North end, except perhaps inbound pulp. What happened to the Iron Road negotiated CN rights to the mill? Any info appreciated.
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Re: Madawaska Traffic

Postby CN9634 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:26 am

A huge amount of traffic is moving out over CN up there. Most all the mill traffic and some Aroostook county stuff too. The reload facility up there is loading lumber cars in the tune of about 20 cars a week as well.
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Re: Madawaska Traffic

Postby KSmitty » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:06 pm

Whats moving down from the Fort Kent area to Oakfield and then points west?
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Re: Madawaska Traffic

Postby CPF363 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:53 pm

KSmitty wrote:Whats moving down from the Fort Kent area to Oakfield and then points west?

Would this traffic move via the CMQ to Montreal?
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Re: Madawaska Traffic

Postby CN9634 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:05 pm

KSmitty wrote:Whats moving down from the Fort Kent area to Oakfield and then points west?


Lumbah. Maybe some logs. It would probably go west via PAR but some logs have moved CMQ recently.

A lot of stuff is moving north via the CN interchange. I can't quote numbers, sorry.
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Re: Madawaska Traffic

Postby pumpers » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:50 pm

CN9634 wrote:
KSmitty wrote:Whats moving down from the Fort Kent area to Oakfield and then points west?


Lumbah. Maybe some logs. It would probably go west via PAR but some logs have moved CMQ recently. ...

Do you mean west on the CMQ? To where? There is no traffic through Lac Megantic yet, is there?
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EDIT: My bad. I now see on the "CMQ Operations" thread that there have been through trains (not sure how often) since late July (or perhaps sooner).
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Re: Madawaska Traffic

Postby riffian » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:23 pm

Is the lumber reload in Madawaska in addition to this http://www.sjvalley-times.com/view/full ... o-increase
or are we perhaps referring to the same facility??
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Re: Madawaska Traffic

Postby Fritz » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:18 am

riffian,
I am pretty sure there is no lumber transload in Madawaska. Rather, there is the ex-LMS lumber transload in Van Buren that is described in the article that you linked. We've been seeing a fair amount of lumber from that transload (both Irving and Twin Rivers) moving south on the CMQ-WACR connection in Vermont. Also there is again paper moving south from Madawaska through this same gateway (mostly in MMA and now COER boxcars). It's good to see this traffic returning to the local rails.
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Re: Madawaska Traffic

Postby riffian » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:17 am

Good news, for sure. With Irving reopening the Ashland sawmill, the continued resurgence of Fraser Timber in Masardis, coupled with the Van Buren reload, there is a sizable amount of finished lumber coming south out of Aroostook county again. Hopefully enough to sustain the Maine Northern for the immediate future.
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Re: Madawaska Traffic

Postby fogg1703 » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:50 pm

Fritz wrote:We've been seeing a fair amount of lumber from that transload (both Irving and Twin Rivers) moving south on the CMQ-WACR connection in Vermont. Also there is again paper moving south from Madawaska through this same gateway (mostly in MMA and now COER boxcars). It's good to see this traffic returning to the local rails.


The Mass Central was a big recipient of MMA paper and lumber traffic through the Wildwood Reload as well as the former Quabog Transfer property (now Sherwood Lumber) on the NECR in Bondsville. MapleLeaf Distribution on the NECR in Bondsville is also a large paper roll distributor with a good amount of CN/WC traffic as well as traffic historically from Fraser in Madawaska. Looks like old routings may be beginning to return to normal now that CMQ has opened up the Moosehead.

riffian wrote:Good news, for sure. With Irving reopening the Ashland sawmill, the continued resurgence of Fraser Timber in Masardis, coupled with the Van Buren reload, there is a sizable amount of finished lumber coming south out of Aroostook county again. Hopefully enough to sustain the Maine Northern for the immediate future.


Lets not forget the Pleasant River Lumber and Moose River Lumber loadings.
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