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MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby Tom Tancula » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:57 am

The MMA fleet of units is going to the auction block along with some of those owned by Rail World Locomotive Leasing. See this link and the list below.

http://www.adamsauctions.com//live/docu ... 0Flyer.pdf

Init # Type
MMAL 21 GP7
MMAL 23 GP7
MMAL 79 GP9
MMAL 100 GP7
SLC 270 F40PH
SLC 293 F40PH
SLC 302 F40PH
CDAC 450 F40PHM-2
MMA 2000 B23-7
MMA 3000 C30-7M
MMA 3603 C30-7
MMA 3609 C30-7
MMA 3613 C30-7
MMA 3614 C30-7
MMA 5016 C30-7
MMA 5017 C30-7
MMA 5018 C30-7
MMA 5021 C30-7
MMA 5023 C30-7
MMA 5026 C30-7
MMA 5078 C30-7
MMA 8202 C39-8
MMA 8207 C39-8
MMA 8208 C39-8
MMA 8525 B39-8
MMA 8541 B39-8
MMA 8546 B39-8
MMA 8553 B39-8
MMA 8569 B39-8
MMA 8578 B39-8
MMA 8583 B39-8
MMA 8592 B39-8
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby MEC407 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:22 pm

Thanks, Tom!
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby RGlueck » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:11 pm

Note: The F3a is not included! I think that's probably good.
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby MEC407 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:12 pm

Good observation!

Tom, does MMA or RailWorld still own the F3? If so, do you know what their plans for it are?
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby Fritz » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:15 pm

Hello,
Also interesting in their absence are the four ex-CN SD40-2s (5364, 5374, 5382, 5389). Not sure how many - if any - are operable.

And what about the remote control cabooses (VB1-4). Has anyone seen them since the CMQ takeover?

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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby Ridgefielder » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:07 pm

MEC407 wrote:Good observation!

Tom, does MMA or RailWorld still own the F3? If so, do you know what their plans for it are?

Maybe I'm imagining things, but I could swear I read somewhere that Fortress got the F3s...
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby Tom Tancula » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:37 am

Boy, I wish Rail World owned the F3, but as I understand it, it went to CMQ and is still stashed under cover in the paint shop at Derby.

As for the ex CN SD20-2 units, all five were always owned by Rail World Locomotive Leasing (RWLL) and were never sold to MMA. The disposition and status of the units are as follows:

-MMA/BCOL/CN 758-Sold by RWLL to Wheeling & Lake Erie

-CN 5364-Still owned by RWLL, no traction motors, awaiting inspection by potential purchaser

-CN 5374-Still owned by RWLL, no traction motors, awaiting inspection by potential purchaser

-CN 5382-Scrapped prior to MMA bankruptcy at Derby Shops-components used by RWLL as follows: Cooling system, AR10, aux gen and accessory rack used to construct M62M locomotive in Ukraine: Traction motors sent to Rail Polska in Poland for use under one of their M62M units

-CN 5389-Scrapped prior to MMA bankruptcy at Derby Shops-components used by RWLL as follows: Cooling system, AR10, aux gen and accessory rack used to construct M62M locomotive in Ukraine: Traction motors sent to Rail Polska in Poland for use under one of their M62M units

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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby Tom Tancula » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:39 am

OOPS! SD40-2 units, not SD20!!! Fat typing fingers!
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby MEC407 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:58 am

Thanks for the additional info, Tom!
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby Dick H » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:20 pm

Maybe PAR would be interested in the two SD40-2 locos, if the price was right,
(scrap value or so). They would only have to tow them about 50 miles from
NMJ to Waterville.
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby MEC407 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:49 pm

From Yahoo! News Canada:

Yahoo! News Canada wrote:Quebec provincial police say they've taken steps to prevent the auction of the locomotive that played a key role in the deadly Lac-Megantic rail disaster.

A spokeswoman for the force said Wednesday that investigators initiated measures to block a U.S. auction house from selling the locomotive until the end of legal proceedings.
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A spokesman for MMA's secured creditor, the Maine-based Bangor Savings Bank, told The Canadian Press earlier this week that it "double" and "triple" checked to make sure authorities no longer needed the unit and that they had permission to auction it off. He was not immediately available for comment after the Quebec police announcement.

MMA 5017, the lead engine on the train that smashed into Lac-Megantic, is scheduled to go to auction Aug. 5., a month after the disaster-scarred town marked the first year of the catastrophe.


Read the rest of the article at: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/going-once-go ... 08543.html

Thanks to Dick H for sending me the link.
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby MEC407 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:01 pm

Additionally, a complete list of the locomotives up for auction along with descriptions of their various conditions can be viewed here:

http://www.adamsauctions.com/servlet/Se ... tionId=302
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby trainiac » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:22 am

Wow... That is a very tired fleet. I've photographed of all of the C30-7's and B39-8E's in service - but of the 20 such units in the auction list, 8 (including 5017) either need significant repairs or are fit for scrap. Ironically, many of the "new" CITX SD40-2's are 10+ years older than the oldest GE's (albeit rebuilt - and likely better maintained).
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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby Tom Tancula » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:26 pm

Wow... That is a very tired fleet. I've photographed of all of the C30-7's and B39-8E's in service - but of the 20 such units in the auction list, 8 (including 5017) either need significant repairs or are fit for scrap. Ironically, many of the "new" CITX SD40-2's are 10+ years older than the oldest GE's (albeit rebuilt - and likely better maintained).

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Mr. Eby, are you a locomotive expert, and did you work at MMA maintaining their locomotives?? I didn't think so.


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Re: MMA Locomotive Auction

Postby MEC407 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:37 pm

From the Bangor Daily News:

Bangor Daily News wrote:The locomotive that led the Maine train that killed 47 people in Quebec last year will likely be withheld from an auction next month at the request of Quebec provincial police, officials said Thursday.

Sûreté du Québec officials must preserve the locomotive for pending court actions, said attorney Robert Keach, trustee for the estate of bankrupt Montreal, Maine and Atlantic Railway of Hermon. The estate and others involved will honor the request if certain conditions are met, he said.

“Their point is that it might be evidence,” Keach said Thursday. “There is also a duty to provide evidence to defense counsel in the law on both sides [in Canada and the U.S.]. I think they are concerned about that as well.”


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