CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY (CMQ) — New Owner of MMA

Discussion of present-day CM&Q operations, as well as discussion of predecessors Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway (MMA) and Bangor & Aroostook Railroad (BAR).

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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY — New Owner of MMA

Postby CPF363 » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:11 am

CN9634 wrote:A nearly $1M project involving rail in Beattie Maine (Near the border by Jackman) involving EJ Carrier Inc will bring a large spur and operation to the Moosehead. With this as well as Jackman and potentially Greenville recieving biomass for the power plant, it is certainly possible a turn job could come to the Moosehead. Perhaps a bit of luck for the CM&Q

Anymore news about this potential business?
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY — New Owner of MMA

Postby gpp111 » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:47 pm

From what I have read Greenville Biomass plant has only operated sporadically. It is not a large plant and I would not hold my breath that they will ever receive fiber by rail.
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY — New Owner of MMA

Postby gokeefe » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:12 am

gpp111 wrote:From what I have read Greenville Biomass plant has only operated sporadically. It is not a large plant and I would not hold my breath that they will ever receive fiber by rail.


That could all change with a new carrier who is serious about service and traffic volume. Anything seems possible if the price is right.
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY — New Owner of MMA

Postby KSmitty » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:01 pm

Why would you ship biomass to Greenville. Its in the middle of woods, lifelong supply of biomass to chip, mill, burn or build all right there. Cut the tree down, drag it across the road and just start feeding it into the boiler ass end first... :-D
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY — New Owner of MMA

Postby CN9634 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:34 pm

KSmitty wrote:Why would you ship biomass to Greenville. Its in the middle of woods, lifelong supply of biomass to chip, mill, burn or build all right there. Cut the tree down, drag it across the road and just start feeding it into the boiler ass end first... :-D


Not all woods is the same my friend! Keep in mind also, who owns what land, costs of harvesting the wood, and actually identifying trees that can be harvested. There is a lot that goes into sustainable wood harvesting.

Have a gander here: http://sfimaine.org/

Also, no update on EJ Carrier. Chances are you won't see this for quite some time but they got the IRAP award this year so it may start whenever Maine decides to finally warm up. In other news, big storm on Wednesday, just another notch in the belt that is this endless winter.
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY — New Owner of MMA

Postby oat324 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:27 am

So while they wait for the paperwork to be completed before the takeover, why hasn't Fortress started trackwork? They could have a lot done by the time they take over and they wouldn't have to wait long to get the oil trains back on this route. I would like to see them try for intermodal with a NBSR/CMQ/CP routing because CN always has a nice cut on their regular train from Halifax.
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY — New Owner of MMA

Postby CN9634 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:08 am

Two reasons.

1.) They dont own the property yet
2.) Besides laying materials, there isnt much you can do until late May and early June when mud season is over
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY — New Owner of MMA

Postby oat324 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:44 am

Ok, thanks for the information.
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY — New Owner of MMA

Postby Dick H » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:19 pm

Last MM&A Plow Train????
Thanks to Richard Deuso for the photo

http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo ... ate&page=1
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Re: RR Acquisition Holdings / Fortress — New Owner of MMA

Postby MEC407 » Sat May 17, 2014 2:10 pm

Backshophoss wrote:Will the reporting marks be CMQR or CMQX?


Neither. CMQ has officially been registered as the reporting mark. I searched for CMQR in the AAR database and it has not been registered.
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY (CMQ) — New Owner of MMA

Postby Backshophoss » Sat May 17, 2014 8:25 pm

Thanks much,interesting that a 3 letter mark was accepted.
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY (CMQ) — New Owner of MMA

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Sun May 18, 2014 3:06 pm

Mr. Backshop, there are many a three letter reporting mark active.

However, I must wonder if on the CP-M/MMA/CMQ 'wheel reports' are still manually prepared. If such be the case, there could be confusion between CMQ and CMO. The latter is a reporting mark in use by the UP (Chicago, Minneapolis, & Omaha - The Omaha Road; a one time subsidiary of the C&NW).
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY (CMQ) — New Owner of MMA

Postby MEC407 » Sun May 18, 2014 3:32 pm

Perhaps they'll have to write it in cursive to avoid confusion... but then it would look like CM2 :wink:
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY (CMQ) — New Owner of MMA

Postby mwhite » Sun May 18, 2014 3:43 pm

I was in East Millinocket, Millinocket and Brownville Junction this morning. There were MMA locomotives in both Millinocket and Brownville Junction. I'm wondering if they are still being used during a transition period?

Also one of the RCO cabooses was at Millinocket. Given their pledge to generally use two man crews, I suppose we won't be seeing them used anymore.

There is still a string of MMA hi- cube box cars at East Millinocket.
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Re: CENTRAL MAINE & QUEBEC RAILWAY (CMQ) — New Owner of MMA

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Sun May 18, 2014 3:56 pm

Mr. White, it was reported earlier that the locomotives were not included in the sale of the MMA property to CMQ. Likely those locomotives are either owned by or leased to the Estate. Since the new (to CMQ at least) EMD motive power is not yet on the property, the Estate may as well pick up a few bucks before they all go to their heavenly rest at a scrapyard.

For what it be worth, the Gray and Red liveried GE locomotives started life on the BN along about 1982 as leased motive power.
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