Lake Shore Limited

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Re: Lake Shore Limited

Postby twropr » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:32 pm

Arborway - Thanks to your post I found some interesting material about the attempted discontinuance of 448/449 during the spring of '97. MA negotiated a deal with Amtrak that kept the train, and a main offering by the state was the construction of a new mail/express facility just east of the station to service the train. Of course, Amtrak has not been handling mail/express since Gunn discontinued it circa 2001, so this did not turn out to be much of an incentive to keeping the train in the long term.

Arborwayfan wrote:That was in winter or spring 1997. They got so far as to sell tickets on the buses for a while.

A kind of funny story:
Sometime in the spring of 1997 I made a reservation Champaign-Chi on the CONO, Chi-NYP on the Three Rivers (via Pittsburgh and Philly, lots of mail cars), NYP-BOS unreserved or reserved on the night train, and then back BOS-NYP-CHI-CHM via the Lakeshore Ltd. When the plan to bustitute was cancelled, Amtrak helpfully changed my reservation to Lakeshore in both directions. So kind, really, to think about that. But I wanted to ride the Three Rivers and I had dinner plans with a friend in New York. I did get that part of the reservation put back, but they had to override the software that wanted to charge me a lot extra to "change" my reservation back to what I'd asked for. But they did change it to what I'd wanted, and in 99% of cases what they did initially would have been right.
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Re: Lake Shore Limited

Postby bostontrainguy » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:05 pm

And don't forget all the money just spent to make Rensselaer more efficient just for 448/449 and also for the rebuilding and maintenance of the Post Road Branch also just for 448/449:

On April 30, 1972, Penn Central Transportation removed the track on the Post Road Branch, forcing passenger trains to make a reverse movement along the current Schodack Subdivision. The abandoned line was assigned to Amtrak in the 1976 formation of Conrail, and Amtrak reopened it on October 28, 1979 with Conrail trackage rights for freight. These rights were assigned to CSX Transportation in the 1999 breakup of Conrail.

Lots of wasted money if 448/449 disappears.
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Re: Lake Shore Limited

Postby Otto Vondrak » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:42 pm

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Re: Lake Shore Limited

Postby Backshophoss » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:47 am

Still looks like the "Panera Bread model of food service" is in effect, but, now allowing a "warm" Breakfast offering
on a "Fancy" roll !
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Re: Lake Shore Limited

Postby benboston » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:21 am

What if Amtrak rented out it's café cars...
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Re: Lake Shore Limited

Postby Jeff Smith » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:57 am

benboston wrote:What if Amtrak rented out it's café cars...

Talk about that here: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=87399
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Re: Lake Shore Limited

Postby twropr » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:57 pm

What is the normal consist of the LAKE SHORE this winter? Does the café come from NY or Boston?
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